hmm so basically Haltec is not bringing anything new to the table ?

 

Software is software...I base my opinion on fact & experience. At a glance software doesn't tell you anything...one might look cooler than another but that doesn't mean anything.

IMO...if FULL STAND ALONE is the only option you have, I'd pick a MoTec over the ones mentioned no questions asked.

To me & our team its more about how the system works; mainly it's drivability & how it responds to the changes you make when tuning.

Either will work...just remember, you get what you pay for.

 

seen this right now, called left message. they said it will be forwarded to your phone.

 

Which Motec box would you call the equivalent to the AEM EMS, Rob? The M800?

 

I don't think we talked so call me back or email me your number and I'll call you.

Thanks,
Rob C.
310.533.8900
rcardona@WORLD-racing.com

 

The M800 is a little overkill...I think a M400 with some options would be the best bet.

 

Motec is a very nice system. from a glance but I do not have any experience tuning it other than a few training classes.

The AEM EMS, I have been trained and tuning for sometime. So with that being said, it provides enough tools and maps to make a very nice drivable car.

The only downside with Motec even the M400 unit, is that it starts at $3000 and adds options onto it. Then you have to use their custom connectors, which is yet another $100.....it adds up real quick.

Not every Scion owner on here has that dough to spend like that. The AEM EMS we offer is a mere $1700-1800. Even that is a stretch for most...

 

i was just checking out motec.. and wow 3K starting price... Is it more towards a pro race cars ?

 

Yea Motec is for typically for the big boys. Keep an eye out for their stickers on a lot of the better budget race teams.

 

Not necessarily, MoTec is a system developed for those who demand the best.

The difference is hard to understand if you don't have any experience with stand alone systems in street cars / daily drivers. I have used everything from a Speed-Pro / F.A.S.T. system back in the DAY...to the top on the line EFI x5 unit and until you experience the problems for yourself it’s hard to understand way one system is $1,000 & one system is $5000 but they are suppose to do the same thing.

Back to my motto...you get what you pay for.

 

focus people... lol
intake mainfold?
i keep seeing you people say, turbo'ed or n/a cars.
will this work on the s/c set up. a local kid is interested in my s/c and was hoping this would work to help him out with the whp gains.
but i never really read anywhere, that somebody done did it..lol

 

why wouldn't it work for sc..think before you ask

 

works great on super charged cars too...!

i have a community member getting ready to post up some info on his install & his dyno numbers at 8psi & 10psi.

 

why do you have to be a dick..
if you read my post it says. i've have searched and have not seen or heard anybody do it.. just double checking the answer.. thats what the forums are for, right domo.
-sound of a dummy

 

thanks rob...

 

quick update...we dynoed a customers 2ndGen xB this week which we had installed the DESCENDANT intake manifold & our DESCENDANT "Bolt-On & Go" Turbo Kit and at 8psi the car made 298WHP & 308TQ. I'll be posting the dyno sheets & some video next week once I get back in the office.

FYI...when comparing this to the last 2ndGen xB we did which was identical minus the intake manifold we are seeing an increase of 17WHP & 19TQ which is right on point with what we expected.

IMO...boosted applications @10psi + will see 25WHP+ gains.

 

this could put my car over 400 whp on 11 psi

 

did you get a chance to dyno with apps of I/h/e yet?

 

Not yet, we've been slammed getting ready for SEMA but as soon as we get back we have some dyno appointments scheduled do get all these different combo's tested & tuned so that we can post up all our info.

 

Has any one done the dyno on a supercharged Tc ?? the runners look shorter and geared for a higher RPM wich means you can bring the supercharger into a far more efficient range to make way better power im make 259.1 hp @13psi weird spike maybe malfunctioning boost gauge , but wonder if i could break 300 ??????