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Stop crying Chad! Go have custom aluminum piping done and it can be whatever size you want. Run 6" piping on both sides if that will make you happy.

 

Yeah but that idea was scrapped. It was mentioned in another thread.

https://www.scionlife.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=169745

 

ohhh ok thanks man. I never noticed that (obviously) just wondering what ever happened to that idea.

 

i prefer function over form. I really don't endorse any turbo "kit". I just think it's funny about people worrying about a better BOV. from what i've seen the descendant system is setup for function. the bosch 110 BPV (BYPASS VALVE) is super great. (I made over 550rwhp with one) no tuning involved, and is MAF friendly. to each his own I guess

 

yea they were great - they ripped us all off.

https://www.scionlife.com/forums/showthread.php?t=110309&highlight=zpi

 

exactly my point...

 

Its kinda funny that there are so many "Turbo Company" vs "turbo company" which is better.

It pretty much falls down just to personal pref! You can compare it to condoms! Everyone has their preferred brand!

 

i like the invisible trojan..... it feels like im not even wearing one.

 

jk btw

 

Oh, silly boys!!! Always gotta compare cars to "companionship with a lady"

 

hahaha... it is what the customers in the end want.... but the poll and thread helped with my choice


ptuning offers the same life time warranty, and their kit is also turn key.

 

agree the only chance they have to be the best is the alpha kit which i dont no will ever come out

 

Oh snap here comes another great debate thread.

 

^ lol

 

agree with lmfao 1st ptuning always then desendent then dezod

 

Your kind of new to this forum. Dezod was the first #1 company for turbo kits back from years ago. They have tested and drove their products. They know the limits of the product and have made great headway in the scion world. In the past 4 years I can count on one hand of the people who didnt like dezod. Fourms generally are the spot people get put on blast. Dezod has #1 cust support and I have watched 3 companies in this time period fail because they couldnt compete. Dezod has a few things they will be releasing soon and I know they fully test what they put on the market. How can you beat that? If you msg them or call them they will give you the time of day. I have been to places and talked to people who treat you like dirt. Look up the name dezod on this forum and you will see years worth of people who only have positive things to say.

 

^ im going to have to say i can count on 3 hands the number of ppl that have had issues with a dezod kit and or not happy with them, dezods willing to work with you if you have a problem.. to an extent, but as he was saying as it bieng a "starter kit" what qualifies it to be just that? every turbo "KIT" is a starter KIT hence why there called kits. Now Ptuning has a RACE turbo kit which is for the guys strictly looking to go big boy.. any kit has to be upgraded to push large amounts of power whether it be the turbo, intercooler, manifold w.e there is not 1 kit out there that will put you into the big boy leagues on what u get just with the kit. Upgrades are always needed to go further.. and did u not see jessica? she put down over 500whp on a dezod kit (upgraded turbo).. now there getting something else which i will not say because im not sure if its 100% certain but anything can be done with any kit.

and jwaggz im not sure if it was about "competing" as much as it was about personal problems or financial issues with the other companys because zpi ripped. and Todd had some really nice product, im sure everyone would say they would take his EL mani's over dezods log mani.. clearly made more power aswell.. dezod just has a larger name, a MASSED production kit pretty much, customer service and easy availability and a handful of employees, and lots of money to back it. But now the ball has turned and its in dezods court.. can they hang with Ptuning? Hell.. can descendent hang with ptuning? One thing both have that dezod doesnt are actual scion race cars... that perform monthly whether it be road course, drag, time attack etc.. i love seeing actual kits in use like ptunings.

 

^ dezods best selling S1 kit was not designed to be a high hp kit. It was meant to spool quick and run good. If your looking for over 330whp/trq then yea you would go w/ a bigger turbo and maybe some 3" turbing on the 3" pipe back - but other then that ...its not needed. Ptuning has some good products for sure - I like their exhaust and the turbo kit looks official. I was just saying that dezod has sold soooo many kits and to say that a few handful had issues? Thats great. Whats that equal out to be 1%? It all gones on tune. If your turn is crap and running real hot you can crack a manifold - things can happen. Thats one of the main reasons why I dont have a turbo right now (lack of a good tuner that is closer then an hr away and only around some weeks of the month).

 

PTuning has the only kit that you do not need to upgrade anything to make it "Big Boy". The RS kit comes with everything needed to make 500-550whp. That's Big Boy Territory right there. Everyone else....need to change stuff. If they advertise that you don't, then they won't tell you how UN-reliable it will be to use their standard stuff to make that power.

And Jessica's tC made 527 on Q16 race gas sure, but what they didn't tell you is how long the standard Dezod stuff lasted at that power level. Hence why he put the call into PTuning for some upgrades.

And +1 the other companies did no fault because they couldn't compete. They faulted from the inside out. As we have seen countless ZPI kits smashing on stuff it comes up against. And Turbo Toyotas....well if you can get that **** to even fit right, then you can go smash stuff too...lol.