DEZOD or ZPI??? just pick a gang and get beat in already.

 

To be honest, there is a reason why we do not.

 

probably because some think it a wee bit dangerous to not have an intercooler, engine managment, fuel injectors or a bov.

 

I'd say Dezod over the ZPI simply because of what I've heard about Dezod's customer service being great!

I've heard waay too many bad story's about ZPI's customer service and that they like to bullsh*t people a lot.

I have never orderd anything from them, I'm speaking from threads on these forums.

 

And yet, there are so many of them out there... I think if you were to go down the list on the first page of the F/I section, I think I counted somewhere around 6 threads about the Stage 0.

 

...and how many stage 0's have had issues?

 

Only one b/c w0wguytC forgot to take the pins off the turbo!!! And suggest upgrading to Copper WG Gasket.

Other than stage 0 runs fine.

 

So aside from the customer service, blah blah hearsay and such, I'd really like to see a genuine comparison of stats, accessories, and things of that nature coming from Joe, and someone from ZPI, not for a win or lose thing, just as a comparison. I'm sure there are advantages to both packages, but what are the indisputable facts between the two; I think this would be a valuable bit of info for everyone instead of the crap this always seems to turn into. Anyone wanna begin the list?

 

i like pepsi personaly but some people like juice more!

dezod wants me to join their gang cuz i'm pretty good with a bo staff.

 

Maybe if he didn't have an auto.

Play it smart and figure out what your goal is with the kit. Do you want 220, 240, 260, 300, ect... What kind of money you looking to spend? Will you upgrade in the future? Do you like the mitsu turbo over the tnetics or what about garret (oooohhh)? I'm sure what ever kit you pick (besides tnetics or greddy) you'll be happy with as long as it's installed right, tuned right, and you don't make dumb moves like jack the boost up just so you can show off. If you do, do the last one don't blame anyone but yourself.

I like Mike's idea... just pay the car off. If you pay it off you have a good 15K in trade to get a $30K+ car with a nice low payment.

 

i would never get a stage 0 unless i had at least fuel management and a bov,... in that case might as well upgrade to intercooler and get stage one. I personally have turbonetics kit and i loove it so far. plus if u have unichip dealer around ur area, u can get that sucker tuuned.

 

haha. you cant be serious.
dont be so broad to say every one runs fine.
i helped install 2 stage zeros,
neither runs fine. they need a lot of "extra" things to run fine. tune and a BOV being the most important from what ive seen 1st hand

 

thats like saying cigarettes are ok because there are so many smokers out there.

 

I think we found the problem here.

 

cigarettes arent ok?! since when? damn, maybe i should quit

 

that is by far not true. an auto has the same potential to go as fast if not faster then a manual. a properly setup auto will beat out a manual. ive seen 2 9 second supras, one auto one manual line up on the drag strip, same setup and the auto beat the manual. but you have to have a built transmission, but hey, its part of the game. gotta pay to play.

 

yeah you're talking about supras. supra's AT are a lot more efficent than the tC's AT.

additionally the guy with the MT must have been a horrible driver. 90% of what goes on the track is driving skill.


but thats beside the point.... we're talking about a front wheel drive tC.

its been proven that the manuals are quicker than the autos because of the losses with the AT.

 

not true. an auto transmission is computer controlled. computers are able to process information and react better then human reaction. A good tuned transmission will always win. There is no error. Nothing beats perfect shifts and those transmissions are capable of doing that. Keep in mind im talking about an upgraded transmission, not the stock tc one.

 

yeah and i doubt he's gonna have that so my point stays.

 

You cant compare a auto supra to a auto tc......

I was an auto originally. I beat the ____ out of that tranny including running at the track and many highway run's. I had 0 problems beating 350's, wrx, and other turbo car's with my auto. I was the first dezod auto and i had 0 install problems and ran on there base map for MONTHS! Best money I spend.

Stage 0 is a popular turbo kit cause of the damn price, you'll never catch me running a turbo kit with out those things such as injectors, bov, and engine mananagement.

Good luck with your choice. Your best bet is calling each of teh companies and deciding on your own. Please do a little research on both of the companies search Dezod and read the reviews and goto the Buyer/Seller Experience section and read there reviews and do the same for ZPI. Im not gonna sit here and be like BUY DEZOD cause im not not gonna be biased.

My answer to you is call both the companies and choose. Good Luck