DEZOD MOTORSPORTS: ALPHA SERIES V-band Manifold Installed (Page 21)
#42
all i can say is if their many looks that good in el form i wonder what their twin scroll would look like. just curious if you guys could do a quick list of the available turbos for this setup and your thoughts on them.
#43
The Stainless Steel turbine housing is awesome for many reasons. IMPO, it's worth the extra $$ for many reasons and here are a few:
1) infinite turbo adjust-ability for better clearance
2) stainless steel won't rust
3) v-band = leak-less seal every time without gaskets
4) no breaking bolts off in a manifold flange
5) service end of the kit makes like a breeze with one socket needed to remove turbo
#44
http://www.dezod.com/pd-dezod-motors...d-tc-05-10.cfm
#45
wow, i just had to delete half this thread.
can we please keep this on topic? I dont think im asking too much here...
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Question for the folks @ Dezod
When ordering the S1 kit, can we just replace the manifold that comes in the S1 kit for this manifold and upgraded turbo for whatever the cost difference is? Or will there be a totally new kit to choose from on the site?
can we please keep this on topic? I dont think im asking too much here...
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Question for the folks @ Dezod
When ordering the S1 kit, can we just replace the manifold that comes in the S1 kit for this manifold and upgraded turbo for whatever the cost difference is? Or will there be a totally new kit to choose from on the site?
This Alpha Series parts are going to be sold as had pieces leaving customization and fabrication to the end user to cater to their needs to what they are doing with their tC!
Some may want a liquid to air intercooler, some may want a air to air....Some may want 700cc injectors, while others may want 1200cc injectors....Some may want a Bosch BOV, others a TiAL or Greddy.....We did not want to hinder the "customization" notions that the brand Scion was founded on.
#46
#47
Vband FTW!
no bolts breaking, rusting, impossible to reach to tighten, having to place gasket while placing the bolts, and the versatility of being able to rotate it for custom exhaust rounting, etc etc!
im sure there is more, but this is a sick looking manifold!
Don, what exactly is "limited" about your warranty against cracking? im guessing something to do with a flex section in the downpipe area correct?
no bolts breaking, rusting, impossible to reach to tighten, having to place gasket while placing the bolts, and the versatility of being able to rotate it for custom exhaust rounting, etc etc!
im sure there is more, but this is a sick looking manifold!
Don, what exactly is "limited" about your warranty against cracking? im guessing something to do with a flex section in the downpipe area correct?
#48
Once the metals expand, the "L" or "T" on the log, have no other place to go or move because they are tightly conjoined. The only end result in this fashion is cracking.
#49
Turbos that can work with this manifold are:
GT25R
GT28R
GT30R
GT35R
That is a quick Garrett list.
#51
#52
Currently there is a new V band 3 inch exhaust in and 3" downpipe at the bender being profiled. We should see the first of those batches in about 6 weeks. We will have a manifold, turbo, down pipe/spipe, dump tube and S pipe exhaust all in 3 inch for those that want to make big power.
We have a pipe that adapts from the GT35R to the existing S1 turbo kit intercooler piping, so you could replace your current Dezod S1 manifold, turbo, downpipe, spipe with this setup. I wanted to do this so that those that had our kit wouldn't have to go out and buy another complete kit. So you can keep most of what you have.
If it were me I would put a larger intercooler on and get the 3 inch exhaust that we have since the outlet of the new s pipe is v band and our inlet to the new exhaust is v band. Other than that you could keep most other things.
We left out an intake because some people may want to just run a filter, or route a cold air intake or do a blow through MAF so rather than try to guess what people would want to do we decided to leave that up to you.
We have a pipe that adapts from the GT35R to the existing S1 turbo kit intercooler piping, so you could replace your current Dezod S1 manifold, turbo, downpipe, spipe with this setup. I wanted to do this so that those that had our kit wouldn't have to go out and buy another complete kit. So you can keep most of what you have.
If it were me I would put a larger intercooler on and get the 3 inch exhaust that we have since the outlet of the new s pipe is v band and our inlet to the new exhaust is v band. Other than that you could keep most other things.
We left out an intake because some people may want to just run a filter, or route a cold air intake or do a blow through MAF so rather than try to guess what people would want to do we decided to leave that up to you.
#53
Those are 3 manifolds of the same design put into various positions so we could show the different angles and that we had some physical inventory
#55
Not sure, they were all made in the same batch. I just went back and looked how can you possibly even see all the parts on those manifolds?
We decided to offer this NEW piece in V band only because v band is the future.
V band is clean and smooth, instead of taking a nice round pipe (which is what the end of a collector forms) and trying to swage it into a rectangle shape then back to a smooth form again you can stay round through out keeping high velocity and smooth laminar flow. V band just makes the most sense due to it's inherent design features. We could have done it other ways but why would we want to offer something inferior in our kit which we wanted to be the best available? We weren't worried about many people purchasing this we were worried about making the best product possible.
NO gaskets to wear out, no surfaces to warp and not seal, no bolts that can come loose, break, it just keeps things simple and clean on the install.
We decided to offer this NEW piece in V band only because v band is the future.
V band is clean and smooth, instead of taking a nice round pipe (which is what the end of a collector forms) and trying to swage it into a rectangle shape then back to a smooth form again you can stay round through out keeping high velocity and smooth laminar flow. V band just makes the most sense due to it's inherent design features. We could have done it other ways but why would we want to offer something inferior in our kit which we wanted to be the best available? We weren't worried about many people purchasing this we were worried about making the best product possible.
NO gaskets to wear out, no surfaces to warp and not seal, no bolts that can come loose, break, it just keeps things simple and clean on the install.
#56
Not sure, they were all made in the same batch. I just went back and looked how can you possibly even see all the parts on those manifolds?
We decided to offer this NEW piece in V band only because v band is the future.
V band is clean and smooth, instead of taking a nice round pipe (which is what the end of a collector forms) and trying to swage it into a rectangle shape then back to a smooth form again you can stay round through out keeping high velocity and smooth laminar flow. V band just makes the most sense due to it's inherent design features. We could have done it other ways but why would we want to offer something inferior in our kit which we wanted to be the best available? We weren't worried about many people purchasing this we were worried about making the best product possible.
NO gaskets to wear out, no surfaces to warp and not seal, no bolts that can come loose, break, it just keeps things simple and clean on the install.
We decided to offer this NEW piece in V band only because v band is the future.
V band is clean and smooth, instead of taking a nice round pipe (which is what the end of a collector forms) and trying to swage it into a rectangle shape then back to a smooth form again you can stay round through out keeping high velocity and smooth laminar flow. V band just makes the most sense due to it's inherent design features. We could have done it other ways but why would we want to offer something inferior in our kit which we wanted to be the best available? We weren't worried about many people purchasing this we were worried about making the best product possible.
NO gaskets to wear out, no surfaces to warp and not seal, no bolts that can come loose, break, it just keeps things simple and clean on the install.
attached is something u need to explain
#58
Second manifold is the first prototype, the first picture is the second manifold in the batch. Being that it was built on a car then a jig was made around the first manifold you can perfect it after but they will all have the same start and end points. That is the purpose of a jig, to provide you a fixture to make repeatable parts in.
#60
There are plenty of shots of the manifold on our site:
http://www.dezod.com/pd-dezod-motors...d-tc-05-10.cfm
http://www.dezod.com/pd-dezod-motors...d-tc-05-10.cfm
None of those pics show any further detail then whats posted in the thread. Looking for some detailed shots of weld quality and weld penetration.