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Old Feb 28, 2009 | 02:59 PM
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Sorry to see those pictures man. I know how i felt when i got my crack mani. Talk to the seller and see if he'll refund you. Other then that i say rebuild it yourself, you should be able to do it. I've taken my turbo apart twice now (just bored). It's not hard.
Old Feb 28, 2009 | 03:12 PM
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oh man... i feel sorry what happened with the turbo seal issue
that's why i don't feel comfortable buying used stuff....especially like turbo kit.
i hope u figure out something...and contact seller for selling u a bad turbo...

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Old Feb 28, 2009 | 03:23 PM
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at least your turbo isn't as bad as this one!!

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Old Feb 28, 2009 | 04:42 PM
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I am the seller and I don't think there is anything wrong with it. I mean, it ran fine the last time I drove it. I would NEVER sell something broken or messed up, especially to a cool guy like UnXpectedError.
Old Feb 28, 2009 | 04:55 PM
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not trying to start an argument but either you have serious problems with you car (blowing oil into the intake pipe via the crankcase vent) or you sold a turbo that has bad seals. perhaps its possible that you were giving the turbo too much oil pressure at some point and oil seeped from the seals causing this mess. judging by the oil deposits in the pipe you knew something was up either with your car or turbo, you cant have that oil in there without noticing excessive smoke.
Old Feb 28, 2009 | 05:10 PM
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Actually, there was no smoke. My friend would have mentioned it to me when we took it up for uninstallation. Plus, I gave him a free EXPENSIVE boost controller. I don't know why I am being pointed at for wrongdoing.
Old Feb 28, 2009 | 05:15 PM
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i didnt exactly accuse you of wrongdoing if you notice i posted two legitimate ideas of what may have happened. tell me though, did you notice the oil in the pipes before you shipped it out???? your car didnt smoke what so ever????
Old Feb 28, 2009 | 05:17 PM
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either way would you be willing to work with the buyer on having the turbo rebuilt if indeed that is the problem?
Old Feb 28, 2009 | 05:20 PM
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There was no smoke, didn't look into the pipes. I should have. I also bought him a new air filter which costed me $60. I need to talk to him first.
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thats cool...

hey steven what you can try to do is install the mani and turbo with the downpipe and hook up the oil lines. dont install anything els....run stock tune, stock intake, all your doing is replacing the header with the turbo assembly and feeding the turbo with oil....it should run slightly rough but should be ok because your throwing a restriction on the exhoust. look for smoke and oil being blown out of the turbo. this is a real pita way to do it but it will tell you if the turbo is good.....dont forget to give it a couple of revs to make sure.
Old Feb 28, 2009 | 09:25 PM
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im gonna try cleaning everything up and installing it and seeing what happens. do you guys thing that's a bad idea?
Old Feb 28, 2009 | 09:32 PM
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i would go with what crush said. why install eveything only to find out that your turbo needs to come back out to be rebuilt. you won;t have a car to drive if you install everything. BTW steve i would be more then happy to give you a hand!!
Old Feb 28, 2009 | 09:34 PM
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wait i didn;t think about the oil return. you would have to either tap your oil pan to do this or catch the oil that comes out, but don;t let your level get to low. IDK how much comes out soo.....
Old Feb 28, 2009 | 09:57 PM
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well the guy said there wasn't anything wrong with the setup before removal. im also thinking that the oil could be in there from a few months ago when he had a major oil leak from one of the lines. im thinking maybe some of the oil surged into the housing?
Old Feb 28, 2009 | 10:08 PM
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ehh. not likely. oil can only get in one way and that's trough the seals. i would test run and if it works out okay you are already partially done with your install, but if you install everything and the turbo is bad then you will have to have it rebuilt, which means either you return your car back to stock so you can drive it again, or not have a car for a little while. Do yourself a favor and test it so that you know for certain!

testing it is a win win. one you find out if your turbo is bad, and only have to replace your header to make it a DD again, second if it's good then you are already done some of your install.
Old Feb 28, 2009 | 10:33 PM
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i just inspected the pipe that hooks up to the to the turbo inlet. the one that hooks up to the air filter and crank case vent. there is a little bit of oil in there as well coming from the crank case vent. could some of this be blow by?
Old Feb 28, 2009 | 10:40 PM
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possible, but that still doesn't explain the heavy amounts of oil in the pipe that comes off the turbo. unless this guy had some seriously high oil pressures!
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when i said hook up the oil lines you will have to deal with taping the oil pan (safer i think). so you will need to find a fitting that will allow you to plug the oil pan in-case it is a bad seal on the turbo and you have to uninstall. i have a hard time believing that a busted line caused all the oil deposits in the pipe just my opinion. like i said before there are only two things that i can think of right now; A: the car that it was on was blowing quit a bit of oil out of the crank vent and the owner had it recirced into his intake pipe B: the oil return line from the turbo became kinked or was not flowing enough oil away from the turbo and blew out the seals on the turbo.

now for the off chance that that "busted oil line" was spraying a well targeted stream of oil directly onto the air filter which the turbo sucked in he still should have had smoke in any of thes cases.

iv seen a blown seal on a turbocharged 350z while i was at my tuner......its really obvious with light blueish smoke that kinda lingered and when they disconnected one of the charge pipes while it was running it constantly dripped oil out. the poor car had a kit on that used a scavenger pump that evacuates the oil from the return line. well the pump wasn't operating as it should and burned up.
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when the seals go bad it is going to "bleed" out wherever it can including the compressor side of the turbo, its possible and not unlikely that the compressor could sling a little oil within the intake pipe. look at the intake and wher the crank vent nipple is on it, see if the nipple inside is covered.
Old Feb 28, 2009 | 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by crush02342002
when the seals go bad it is going to "bleed" out wherever it can including the compressor side of the turbo, its possible and not unlikely that the compressor could sling a little oil within the intake pipe. look at the intake and wher the crank vent nipple is on it, see if the nipple inside is covered.
yeah i think your right its just slinging oil into the intake.

i further inspected the turbo and it does in fact have a small amount of shaft play back and forth its a very small amount though but its enough that when you do it you can hear it move back and forth



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