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Old Mar 27, 2007 | 07:22 PM
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Ok my name is Quinten and i have 2007 Scion TC i am looking for a turbo kit and i am stuck between Dezods 07 kit and ZPI's 07 kit. Can anyone help me out here with some advice on what to go with?

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Old Mar 27, 2007 | 07:26 PM
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Dezod on customer service alone! Nuff said!
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I see this thread being locked fast...
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ZPI stage one makes a more power because it comes tuned at 9.5 psi, but requires you cut your front bumper support. Also, the ZPI kit only comes in open dump wastegate form. ZPI does not include a plug and play ecu harness or a Blow off valve.

Dezod kit requires no cutting of the front bumper support. makes about 250 whp out of the box, and offers the option of closed exhaust dump. Includes a plug and play harness so the ecu wiring doesn't need to be chopped up. Also includes Blow off valve and the flange already welded.

I went with Dezod, and am VERY happy.
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Originally Posted by rodlandscion
ZPI stage one makes a more power because it comes tuned at 9.5 psi, but requires you cut your front bumper support. Also, the ZPI kit only comes in open dump wastegate form. ZPI does not include a plug and play ecu harness or a Blow off valve.

Dezod kit requires no cutting of the front bumper support. makes about 250 whp out of the box, and offers the option of closed exhaust dump. Includes a plug and play harness so the ecu wiring doesn't need to be chopped up. Also includes Blow off valve and the flange already welded.

I went with Dezod, and am VERY happy.

Stage 1 comes with an HKS BOV and flange, where did you get that information from?
Old Mar 27, 2007 | 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by RSracer
I see this thread being locked fast...
+1, especially when incorrect information gets tossed into the mix.


PS.....to the original poster....make your decision after researching.
Old Mar 27, 2007 | 07:59 PM
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i have been and not getting a set idea on witch would be the overall better deal
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Treadstone.
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Old Mar 27, 2007 | 08:08 PM
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DEZOD!!!
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Treadstone.
He asked between ZPI and Dezod, why do people always insist on throwing other names around. It be like me coming in here and saying what about me... but he clearly stated Dezod and ZPI.

You have 2 good choices, and both I think will make you happy.

Basically you need to research a bit, but look at some of these factors:

What are the differences?

Manifold - style.material etc
wastegate - size, brand
turbo - manufacturer, flange, power potential
blow off valve - type, brand

It comes down to what of those items you happen to like better. They all work the same, so keep that in mind.

Basically almost all of the kits the manifold, intercooler and chargepipes are all the same. Some kits require cutting of the crash bar, which in reality isn't that big of a deal. All personal preference there.

What are your power goals? Which kit provides that goal
What about future growth potential? Do you plan on upgrading in the future
Costs factors and what you get in that price?

Don't forget the extras that are not included. Clutch, flywheel, boost guage, air fuel guage etc.

Good luck and if you have any more questions, there are a few of us that will give you an honest answer.

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Originally Posted by rodlandscion
ZPI stage one makes a more power because it comes tuned at 9.5 psi, but requires you cut your front bumper support. Also, the ZPI kit only comes in open dump wastegate form. ZPI does not include a plug and play ecu harness or a Blow off valve.
Not to start an argument, but I have seen numerous companies on here proclaim all this power on quacked tunes and high rated dynos, which really shows what this market is heading towards. I hate to say it, but is gonna turn into a Honda world ____ing match soon, if not already. It makes me a little mad that the customers are the ones hurt in the end when it comes to the end of the day. When they spend $4xxx.00 on a turbo kit to not have it perform even close to where the acclaimed power of the manufacturer states.

I have seen our customers have power than we ever have in our beta testing, which shows me a few things. One, product consistancy. Two, truthfulness in advertising, if there is such a thing. Three, integrity. I do not think I need to go any further than that. On a final note, Mike's post:

I only know of one car to make 300whp on a stage 1 kit with 10 PSI and have his motor blown up not even 2 days later. He is a local to me, which is why I know this. Until I can see consistant customers proving these acclaimed power numbers, which I have not, I have no reason to believe the power statement.

End of rant.

Sorry for using this thread. Anyway, back on topic.
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Jrod are you useing an emanage?
Old Mar 27, 2007 | 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by paul_dezod
Originally Posted by rodlandscion
ZPI stage one makes a more power because it comes tuned at 9.5 psi, but requires you cut your front bumper support. Also, the ZPI kit only comes in open dump wastegate form. ZPI does not include a plug and play ecu harness or a Blow off valve.
Not to start an argument, but I have seen numerous companies on here proclaim all this power on quacked tunes and high rated dynos, which really shows what this market is heading towards. I hate to say it, but is gonna turn into a Honda world ____ing match soon, if not already. It makes me a little mad that the customers are the ones hurt in the end when it comes to the end of the day. When they spend $4xxx.00 on a turbo kit to not have it perform even close to where the acclaimed power of the manufacturer states.

I have seen our customers have power than we ever have in our beta testing, which shows me a few things. One, product consistancy. Two, truthfulness in advertising, if there is such a thing. Three, integrity. I do not think I need to go any further than that. On a final note, Mike's post:

I only know of one car to make 300whp on a stage 1 kit with 10 PSI and have his motor blown up not even 2 days later. He is a local to me, which is why I know this. Until I can see consistant customers proving these acclaimed power numbers, which I have not, I have no reason to believe the power statement.

End of rant.

Sorry for using this thread. Anyway, back on topic.

You know 1 car out of how many Stage 1's Paul? What's the point anyway in trying to argue over #'s. Lets look at the race time stamps shall we....
Old Mar 27, 2007 | 08:52 PM
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For all of you that suggest that this tread will be locked.....WHY?
Can a person just ask a comparison question? This is the internet right?!?!? WE really need to back off on this site...great thread started on this yesterday.
If I want to post a topic on the comparison of two products and people what to express their facts, opinions, or thought on those two products, so be it. They should not be worried, blocked or discouraged about asking questions about products for scions, to scion owners, on a scion website.



Oh BTW not to get off topic but go w/ ZPI
Old Mar 27, 2007 | 09:03 PM
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yeah, that is the whole point of this forum, but you know, everybody gets soooo passionate about how great or how bad things went on their turbo build and so on.

it will quickly go from comparison, to debate, to a battlefield.

then it will get locked. and later on somebody will ask again and history will repeat itself. that is why i kindly ask people to search and find answers to questions that have already been resolved.
Old Mar 27, 2007 | 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by JQ
For all of you that suggest that this tread will be locked.....WHY?
Can a person just ask a comparison question? This is the internet right?!?!? WE really need to back off on this site...great thread started on this yesterday.
If I want to post a topic on the comparison of two products and people what to express their facts, opinions, or thought on those two products, so be it. They should not be worried, blocked or discouraged about asking questions about products for scions, to scion owners, on a scion website.



Oh BTW not to get off topic but go w/ ZPI

Because we already have threads for this kind of stuff....IN FACT there is a STICKY on this anyway. These sort of threads tend to spark flames, and then we end up in ____ing matches. Never a good way to start a thread. Sorry, my vote is LOCK.


End of discussion Copy and Paste:
https://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=130799
Old Mar 27, 2007 | 09:09 PM
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ZPI!

Search and you will find why. = )
Old Mar 27, 2007 | 09:20 PM
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I say LOCK.

I don't even read these forums enough as Paul and Rhythmnsmoke and I'm sick of this kind of topic. It’s been discussed time and time again, especially between these two companies. You should research yourself and find your own conclusion. I can guaranty you that anyone feeling 8-10psi worth of boost is going to boast about their kit, and why wouldn’t they? I have nothing you (Quinten) but you have to understand this is sadly a touchy topic. If you’re going to spend $4k+ on a kit, you can do a few hours worth of searching to answer just about any question you have about any kit.



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