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Old Jul 11, 2011 | 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
I know. So, if you were ever to make it out this way, before I make it out that way (cause I want to race at Button Willow or Willow Springs), and we got to playing around, your run would end at 127mph and I would keep accelerating. I can't do 127mph...that's just not enough room when you are pushing a turbo on the tC.







I know, it's like they run and hide after that. I had people trying me when I was N/A... Didn't have the power to over come the downforce so I didn't bother with the straight line unless I had removed the wing. I can leave it on now




1) For about a year now with 6800rpms and no speed cut
2) Could never make it over 120mph due to a) The downforce the car generates at that speed was to much for the stock HP to try and overcome and b) If it takes me to long to get up to that top speed, I don't never bother trying. Kinda like there is a lot more time for an error to occur while I'm trying to reach that max speed, vs only a few seconds since you have the power to do it.

Car has seen 10 or so 140mph runs since yesterday now. I'm getting comfortable with the setup sorta speak...Getting the timid feeling of doing 140 out of my system before hitting the track. It's out now so...no more 140 blast on "closed courses".

Just FYI....at 140mph I'm @ 5900-6000rpms.
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Old Jul 11, 2011 | 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by speedintc
dood i jus had my car tuned at ptuning like the last week in june. i drove from there there to oklahoma and had not one car try to mess with me but wen i was untuned everything under the sun tried me. car is lookin good. id like to get down there and run a track day with you guys wen i get get my brake setup done.
Come on down man, we have plenty of room if you need a place to crash/stay too
Old Jul 11, 2011 | 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
On a stock block, the consensus is that you will not want to go above 7000rpms. I've been running 6800rpms for a while now, so I just kept it that way. On a built long block, the sweet spot is 7800rpms per Chris Rado and other race built tC's like PTuning's and Ken Gushi's drift tC.
Nice numbers Trav. Back in the game after a LONG time on the sidelines.

You can rev to 7500 or 7800 on a stock block. We have been doing it on several tCs for several years, however I will state this again, that if you are not making power with it up there and/or not racing it, you're effectively doing nothing other than tooting your own horn. Now if the car makes power up there, which I have yet to only see 2-3 that did, then it's worth it.
Old Jul 11, 2011 | 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by paul_dezod
Nice numbers Trav. Back in the game after a LONG time on the sidelines.

You can rev to 7500 or 7800 on a stock block. We have been doing it on several tCs for several years, however I will state this again, that if you are not making power with it up there and/or not racing it, you're effectively doing nothing other than tooting your own horn. Now if the car makes power up there, which I have yet to only see 2-3 that did, then it's worth it.

Thanks Paul. Had to do a lot of housekeeping first to get back to my toys.

Never heard of anyone running a stock motor at 7500 or 7800rpms. Would be interesting to see who is running that high and actually use it, not just to say..."my tC revs to 7800 on the stock motor".

How much power were the 2-3 making on a stock block at 7500 or 7800rpms? How long did they last at the race track, not daily driving.
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Originally Posted by paul_dezod
Nice numbers Trav. Back in the game after a LONG time on the sidelines.

You can rev to 7500 or 7800 on a stock block. We have been doing it on several tCs for several years, however I will state this again, that if you are not making power with it up there and/or not racing it, you're effectively doing nothing other than tooting your own horn. Now if the car makes power up there, which I have yet to only see 2-3 that did, then it's worth it.
I guess most of them are stock blocks.....just not stock internals in the blocks, and I agree....if your car is not making power past 6600....really no need to rev to 7000-7500

"....You can rev to 7500 or 7800 on a stock block. We have been doing it on several tCs for several years....."
where are these cars you speak of.....quit holding out on us
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Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Thanks Paul. Had to do a lot of housekeeping first to get back to my toys.

Never heard of anyone running a stock motor at 7500 or 7800rpms. Would be interesting to see who is running that high and actually use it, not just to say..."my tC revs to 7800 on the stock motor".

How much power were the 2-3 making on a stock block at 7500 or 7800rpms? How long did they last at the race track, not daily driving.
2 are definitely stock.

The other is not and has a GT37 or GT40 on it. Thing is super laggy! Peak boost is literally 5K or so.
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Originally Posted by paul_dezod
2 are definitely stock.

The other is not and has a GT37 or GT40 on it. Thing is super laggy! Peak boost is literally 5K or so.

Sorry if any confusion. I say stock block as in 100% bone stock motor. If I'm doing 7500-7800rpms, I would think the power would be around 400whp to make use of that rpm. Stock motor at 400whp and a 7500rpm redline, I think for sure will not be considered reliable for a full race day. I mean maybe if my budget was like Chris Rado's or something, then I would fart at the thought of it blowing and just have my team drop me in a spare motor I have sitting in the back of the big rig...

BUT....I'm not Rado and I'm not much of one to say I have something...but can't use it because it would blow up. So, I just take it to where I know I can use it reliably. A drive from my house to the track, lay down some mid 1:00 lap times, and then drive home and all I need is a fill on gas....Is the kind of days I like to have. Got that with N/A power....want to retain that ease with Boost, except I can lay down some low 1:00 lap times now
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Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Sorry if any confusion. I say stock block as in 100% bone stock motor. If I'm doing 7500-7800rpms, I would think the power would be around 400whp to make use of that rpm. Stock motor at 400whp and a 7500rpm redline, I think for sure will not be considered reliable for a full race day. I mean maybe if my budget was like Chris Rado's or something, then I would fart at the thought of it blowing and just have my team drop me in a spare motor I have sitting in the back of the big rig...

BUT....I'm not Rado and not much of one to say I have something...but can't use it because it would blow up.
100% bone stock. No tricks. No gimmicks. However, let me enlighten all of you that there is always danger in doing this.
Old Jul 11, 2011 | 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by paul_dezod
100% bone stock. No tricks. No gimmicks. However, let me enlighten all of you that there is always danger in doing this.

That's for sure. I would say there was even a risk in a 7000rpm redline on s stock motor. That's just me though. Some may have opinions on it being reliable, but those people typically aren't road racing for 20mins a session.
Old Jul 11, 2011 | 09:10 PM
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travis cali roads tried to ruin my ptuning exhaust. you can see the mangled clamp in my thread.
Old Jul 12, 2011 | 01:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Syldrin
travis cali roads tried to ruin my ptuning exhaust. you can see the mangled clamp in my thread.

Thought cali roads were smooth as butter...no?
Old Jul 12, 2011 | 02:25 AM
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i will be goin to the ultimate this winter. only reason im not doin it now is because im about to buy a new camera this month.
Old Jul 12, 2011 | 02:45 AM
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^^I need to add one of those to my list too. Broke my old one, hence no videos really..
Old Jul 12, 2011 | 03:30 AM
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i need to get some vid of my car. i got a couple buddies deployed that wanna see vids of it. i made 349.1 and i think like 330 tq on there dyno at 18 lbs. i kno i had some small issues that i had to fix so we didnt do a street tune or anything. anyways i took care of my coupler that kept blowing off so me and thendawg went out friday night and retuned im quite sure that its into the 400+ range right now.
Old Jul 12, 2011 | 03:35 AM
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Originally Posted by speedintc
i need to get some vid of my car. i got a couple buddies deployed that wanna see vids of it. i made 349.1 and i think like 330 tq on there dyno at 18 lbs. i kno i had some small issues that i had to fix so we didnt do a street tune or anything. anyways i took care of my coupler that kept blowing off so me and thendawg went out friday night and retuned im quite sure that its into the 400+ range right now.
are u stock motor? and 18psi and only 349 something is wrong there. in my opinion
Old Jul 12, 2011 | 03:40 AM
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no im on a fully built motor and believe me those numbers didnt sound right to me either. with the correction factor that ptuning does it came out to 390whp.
Old Jul 12, 2011 | 03:44 AM
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u need to find a new tuner rhythm is just on 11 and he making and he is maybe 20 30 off from u. when i put back on my kit 18psi i should be in the 400 plus club.
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thendawg tuning ftw. but yea rhythem does have some nice numbers.
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dyno numbers dont mean ____. hit the track to compare trap speeds.
Old Jul 12, 2011 | 04:26 AM
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Originally Posted by trd07tc
dyno numbers dont mean ____. hit the track to compare trap speeds.
i may hit the track some day but im mostly an autox / road racer



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