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Old Sep 30, 2006 | 04:24 PM
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I said something about zero's post because if ytou go back and read it he said, "300whp at the crank" and whp occurs at the wheels.
Okay Zero is that at 8 psi and are the only mods to the car the turbo kit?
Old Sep 30, 2006 | 04:25 PM
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that dyno sheet is a turbeonetics kit with a full exhaust system. 270Whp
Old Sep 30, 2006 | 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Enthusiast
I said something about zero's post because if ytou go back and read it he said, "300whp at the crank" and whp occurs at the wheels.
Okay Zero is that at 8 psi and are the only mods to the car the turbo kit?
I admitted the typo..

Here is the Cardomain of the car: http://www.cardomain.com/ride/806342

Who runs a turbo with stock exhaust? That is silly.
Old Sep 30, 2006 | 04:29 PM
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My car made 300 whp stock and I only paid 10,000 for it. Anybody in the dfw area care to race?
Old Sep 30, 2006 | 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by zer0
Originally Posted by Enthusiast
I said something about zero's post because if ytou go back and read it he said, "300whp at the crank" and whp occurs at the wheels.
Okay Zero is that at 8 psi and are the only mods to the car the turbo kit?
I admitted the typo..

Here is the Cardomain of the car: http://www.cardomain.com/ride/806342

Who runs a turbo with stock exhaust? That is silly.
Its proof that exhaust on a turbo car can add more then 20whp
Old Sep 30, 2006 | 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by mxmatt137
My car made 300 whp stock and I only paid 10,000 for it. Anybody in the dfw area care to race?
nobody cares....this is a Scion forum
Old Sep 30, 2006 | 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by yamaha16bw
Originally Posted by mxmatt137
My car made 300 whp stock and I only paid 10,000 for it. Anybody in the dfw area care to race?
nobody cares....this is a Scion forum
Exactly.
Old Sep 30, 2006 | 04:40 PM
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See even this guy uses the same formula http://users.erols.com/srweiss/calchpb.htm
What is giving these cars the extra power? The intercooler?
Old Sep 30, 2006 | 04:42 PM
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right, youre getting 247whp, add 20 whp because of the exhaust, Thats 267whp, which is about 300bhp

Whats the problem?
Old Sep 30, 2006 | 04:43 PM
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Every ad I've ever seen, mostly in Modified Mag, has stated 300hp with 94 octane at 8lbs of boost. The fact that they say 94 octane tells you that they fine tuned it. You'll never see that with the preprogramed unichip which runs richer (safer) . You could probably see some big numbers from 6lbs of boost tuned to 98 octane with something to cool the spark. Either way Turbonetics isn't lying to us they're just a little deceiving.
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There is a forum if your really that mad about it. www.turboneticsownersclub.com

Also check here:
http://68.111.208.232:1352/viewtopic.php?t=3
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Originally Posted by TheQuietThings
right, youre getting 247whp, add 20 whp because of the exhaust, Thats 267whp, which is about 300bhp

Whats the problem?
That calculator calculates Crank HP. Thats the problem apparanetly these cars are putting that amount to the wheels? Where is that extra hp comin from?
Old Sep 30, 2006 | 04:49 PM
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Im not mad just confused
Old Sep 30, 2006 | 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Enthusiast
Originally Posted by TheQuietThings
right, youre getting 247whp, add 20 whp because of the exhaust, Thats 267whp, which is about 300bhp

Whats the problem?
That calculator calculates Crank HP. Thats the problem apparanetly these cars are putting that amount to the wheels? Where is that extra hp comin from?
Well another thing you should take into consideration is that the tC doesn't exactly have "low compression". I guess you could say it has average compression. However, most cars that you turbo have low compression, and will gain slightly less power off each lb. of boost. Since the tC has a higher compression ratio than a turbo car, it will benefit more from each lb. of boost.

Just gotta be careful about blowing stuff up with high compression lol
Old Sep 30, 2006 | 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Enthusiast
Im not mad just confused
Post your question on the other website. That is a direct line to Turbonetics, your question will be answered by people that are behind the kit.
Old Sep 30, 2006 | 04:52 PM
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Also on custom setups, with a monster GT35R turbo @ 6psi it put down 260WHP. Yes WHP.
Old Sep 30, 2006 | 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Enthusiast
Originally Posted by TheQuietThings
right, youre getting 247whp, add 20 whp because of the exhaust, Thats 267whp, which is about 300bhp

Whats the problem?
That calculator calculates Crank HP. Thats the problem apparanetly these cars are putting that amount to the wheels? Where is that extra hp comin from?
Where have you seen someone claim they have 300 WHEEL hp? There are prolly a hand full of tC's in the world that can claim that. TURBONETICS flat out claims 244whp on a stock car with thier kit. That meets your "calculations" so why are you still fighting to prove a point? Like stated before...the 270whp car have a FULL 2.5 inch exhaust w/o cats. That can and will ad HP to a turbo car.
Old Sep 30, 2006 | 05:04 PM
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wow its scary that some people don't know this stuff and are modifying their cars... i hope they have deep pockets...
Old Sep 30, 2006 | 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by yamaha16bw
Originally Posted by Enthusiast
Originally Posted by TheQuietThings
right, youre getting 247whp, add 20 whp because of the exhaust, Thats 267whp, which is about 300bhp

Whats the problem?
That calculator calculates Crank HP. Thats the problem apparanetly these cars are putting that amount to the wheels? Where is that extra hp comin from?
Where have you seen someone claim they have 300 WHEEL hp? There are prolly a hand full of tC's in the world that can claim that. TURBONETICS flat out claims 244whp on a stock car with thier kit. That meets your "calculations" so why are you still fighting to prove a point? Like stated before...the 270whp car have a FULL 2.5 inch exhaust w/o cats. That can and will ad HP to a turbo car.
Actually i have seen in some modified mags that they put 300whp, and if you look at the zpi stage one kit they say that its 300whp too and thats only 9-10 psi

http://www.zeropointindustries.net/s...products_id=36

and look at jamasco racings tc chris there has 14 psi and about 450whp.

Another thing that determines power with pressure is the size of the turbo, if you have a smaller turbo you can run higher psi and not get the same power as a bigger turbo running smaller psi
Old Sep 30, 2006 | 05:19 PM
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I'm sure the modified mags just don't know what they're talking about or its a simple error/typo



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