Yeah, and it's bottom line goal is to meet Cali emissions, which most of us don't have to put up with.


Anyhow my .2 cents is PTuning. Just look around and see what the different companies are actually "Doing", not "talking" about doing it. PTuning is on a different level. And is geared towards people looking for at minimum 280whp out of the box (not dynojet numbers either).


Think about it....How much of Dezods decision to come out with this so-called "Alpha" kit has anything to do with PTuning's current market momentum? I would probably say A LOT. Doubt Dezod would have even thought of producing a larger scale turbo kit if PTuning didn't hit the scene. They would probably stick to their same "money making" formula and not have to worry to much about competition. TurboToyotas, sorry to say, was not enough to get them motivated to change anything. But PTuning came in and lit a fire under their ___....

 

Smoke you are wrong on one point, TT got motivated to welded a bunch of TT logos to their piping and manifold

 

hey Travis, i know you know a lot about the ptuning kit, can you confirm the Pretuned plug and play they will be offering with the kit?

 

I know on their site it says it comes with a "professionally dyno tuned base map" SO I would guess its plug and play

 

It's probably going to be a more conservative version of Fox's tune. However, professional dyno tuning will still be needed because all cars respond differently to tunes, changes in climate/atmosphere, etc. It's most likely going to be a tune meant to be used when going from your driveway/shop to the tuner. And since the tune is the most important factor in the turbo setup, I'm sure MrC will recommend further dyno tuning.

 

Naw, what I was saying is that only PTuning struck a match under Dezod. TT wasn't enough of a threat to do that. Not that PTuning didn't influence TT as well, which you pointed out they poked them into doing something too...lol. Welded logos on the pipe...

I don't usually tell my full honest opinion cause I have to be in the mood to have a flame battle, but those logo pipes look like a "Joes custom exhaust shop" job. Funny though the fanboys were like...."Oh man, that looks great". BHAHAAA! Man the quality is not even close.

And I've said this before also, I know some people like TT manifolds, but I have yet to see one that impressed me. I've always thought they were poorly engineered and the reason why there are so many of them is because the previous ones sucked.

 

+1 MrC would most likely recommend further dyno tuning for your area/climate/altitude...etc.

 

Ptuning>the rest

 

Without a doubt, go with the Ptuning kit. They all know what they are talking about and provide some of the best customer service I have ever experienced. They have super quick shipping and it is actually a quality product that you are paying for. This product actually has gone through fairly extensive testing, based on my understanding. Ptuning is a highly reputable business and they would not slap their name on any piece of garbage. I deal with them on a regular basis and have never once had an issue. I'd honestly pay a little bit extra for a really good product rather than some garbage. As far as I know, dezod doesn't go through as rigorous testing for products. You honestly will not regret dealing with Ptuning. Trust me. I've gone there for numerous reasons and never had a single problem. Just wanna throw it out there, they turned a stock tc into a time attack, award winning 500+ whp sexy beast. And that is actually proven, not just a claim. I think I'd trust that a hell of a lot more than all these other claims out there.

 

^^To add to that, Dezod "Can't" rigorously test stuff, because they are not a shop like that. They don't do much in way of development. All the parts are already proven, since they are branded already. Kinda like buying Ajax from Walmart.

 

i figured that I know everywhere is different and I know temp can play a big part alone in a tune so can many other things.

I'll have one of the first reviews and vids YAY!!!

 

I know that pretty recently, Ptuning worked on a tc that had the dezod kit and they were having all sorts of issues when they were tuning it so I wouldn't recommend dezod. At all.

 

Yeah actually the kit is pretty plug and play btw. I have seen the prototype and production models and it seems extremely easy to attach. I feel so lucky to live down the street from Ptuning.

 

I dont understand were everyone thinks its so easy to talk ____ bout TT products, when in terms TT was the first one that started producing the EL manifolds. To add to that all the builds that you see on here with people putting out real nice numbers, most of those guys are running them off TT based turbo set ups. Its easy to talk about a company that still has everyone waiting to receive their kit. When people say that they are the first of their type you are wrong. Ptuning has done a badass job with a new layout that no one else has done on a tc but we will see how effective it is. you cant go off and bash tt stuff when you in terms have never dealt with them. Todd is a really good guy and has bent over backwards for us. He has been plagued with some problems but their is a thread around here that explains in detail from todd what happened to his company and were he is coming from. read it before you open your mouth. No one on here except fox can say anything bout Ptuning cause he is the only one running the set up. I dont think that i will have a problem with my TT set up everything seems to be fine for now but ill start my own thread when the time comes and we will see. TT has done a lot and has got people thinking. Hence why ptuning has an EL and dezod is making one. One has them one is in production and the other i have no clue were it stands.

 

I wouldn't go that far to never recommend them. I recommend them over TT any day. Just not over PTuning that's all. Dezod has a reliable kit, how could you not, like I said, it's all name brand stuff.

 

No, not the first one. Full Race was the first.




The dyno numbers are on par with every other kit, there is no substantial gain over other kits to make a point in pointing out their dyno numbers. Dyno numbers do not speak for product quality either. Especially when you have to customize the kit when you get it, JUST to make it fit. I can't speak for others, but only for myself, and I have valid experience behind my comments. We have a TT kit amongst our crew, so I'm aware of the pitfalls that has come about with it.

And I have experience with dealing with PTuning as well, so I can speak on that too. And only thing needing saying about PTuning is......"FTW". No more discussion needed...lol. Fox has not even seen his car yet, so just because it's installed on his car does not constitute him as being the only one able to speak on it. I've met the PTuning crew in person, discussed on way to many occasions the plans for my car, as well as picked MrC's brain on many things. I road in their TA car, and studied with a close eye the kit that's on it. It's very well thought out and engineered. I can not say the same for What TT produces. It speaks for it's self when there are "Hey my S-pipe don't fit" threads, or "my manifold hits my hood threads" with TT products.

TT has no influence whatsoever over PTuning's EL manifold design or even the reason why PTuning has an EL manifold. Like I mentioned already, TT is NOT the first people to make an EL manifold for the tC.

 

Hate to say it but I think this is another matter of personal opinions with the facts layed out I still feel people will back either what they have or plan on getting. On Ptunings part some people will claims its a hype and people are "joining the bandwagon" but overall this may bring up the level in new performance parts for our cars and thats pretty damn cool. Company product competion always forces others to step up.

oh and PTUNING...FTW lol

 

I have never even heard if TT and heard extremely negative things of dezod to be honest. I recommend Ptuning any day since I have had the pleasure of talking to everyone there. On top of that, everyone is so knowledgeabl over there, even if it may be the dumbest question, you won't be treated like crap. Name brand or not, I'd rather have something tested out extensively before spending a large sum of money in my car since I want my car to actually last and not be in the shop every other day. I even got to see random adjustments made to the prototype model since MrC and everyone there are the biggest group of perfectionists i have ever met. And that honestly says a lot. I know A LOT of effort has gone into that kit.

 

my car has been there for 6 months and it can stay there for another 6 with them cause I know they will treat my baby like they do theirs. They are all very cool people outside and inside the shop and Ive spent so much time there just chitchatting with them and learning even when I plan to be in and out. LOL.
I know no one has the kit yet but I would bet anything that this kit will as if not more reliable than any kit.

justplay- been there recent? did you see my second child (car ) I miss her so

 

Mospeed, haha yeah I see your baby there all the time. I always get updates as to what is new with it or what you're swapping out. It reminds me of halloween every time I see it and makes me laugh.

I'm honestly super jealous of anyone and everyone who can afford the ptuning kit. I'm slowly but surely saving up for it.