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Old Jul 8, 2006 | 11:44 PM
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It's a 4in x 6in barrel. Here's the kit:

http://www.tweakit.net/shop/product_...roducts_id=643
Old Jul 8, 2006 | 11:47 PM
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Congrats man I can't wait to hear it, oh I'm still selling the Tc and getting an 03 IS300 instead of my original plan of teh 95' supra. I am going S/C it also.
Old Jul 8, 2006 | 11:50 PM
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To ANYONE JUST now joining the thread to see the pics/vid here ya go again


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Here's a video of the BOV:

Old Jul 8, 2006 | 11:56 PM
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How come you didn't go with a bigger core. It looks like you have plenty of room.
Old Jul 8, 2006 | 11:57 PM
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wow!!! that is not what i expected it to look like! but wow again! bov sounds good!
Old Jul 9, 2006 | 12:02 AM
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amazing... i am assuming however that if i was to get a ZPI intake, i could not keep my optima yellowtop in the same location...
Old Jul 9, 2006 | 12:03 AM
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Where is the breather hose from the driver side of the valve cover?
Old Jul 9, 2006 | 12:33 AM
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Piping should, I'm not certain but I think from measuring that ZPI should be able to fit the pipe in right where the stock is once they clock the s/c housing just a bit. If they get in there and that won't work then I'll let them just do what works. Whatever they do it will be substantial less piping then the FMIC, probably a 1/4 of the piping if not less. I got the intercooler for about $1050 shipped from tweakit performance in Australia and ZPI quoted me 3 hrs or less at $95 per hour plus $150 for them to get the pipe and weld it to the intercooler barrel. So if you say 3 hrs it ends up being around $1450-2000.
It doesn't look like it came out like you originally planned. I thought the whole point of using the liquid to air intercooler was to use less piping. It looks to me like you have almost as much piping as a front mount.

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Old Jul 9, 2006 | 01:04 AM
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I didn't go with the bigger core b/c there's definitely no more room for a bigger one. It did use less piping, not as much as I'd originally thought. With the s/c there's basically no room to work with where it's at, so this is probably the shortest piping as you're gonna have. The boost loss is no big deal, I'll just get a pulley to make it up.
Old Jul 9, 2006 | 01:06 AM
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The breather valve has always been plugged off, even after the dealer installed the s/c. I'm gonna get a catch can and route the two breather valves into the exhaust eventually.

The pictures don't really do the kit justice, you'd have to see the car and ride in it before and after to really feel how much different it is.
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absolute creamage
Old Jul 9, 2006 | 01:50 AM
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Originally Posted by kytc
I didn't go with the bigger core b/c there's definitely no more room for a bigger one. It did use less piping, not as much as I'd originally thought. With the s/c there's basically no room to work with where it's at, so this is probably the shortest piping as you're gonna have. The boost loss is no big deal, I'll just get a pulley to make it up.
I am not trying to down grade your setup but it looks like they rushed right through this project. I guess I don't understand why they mig welded all your piping when all there turbo systems have nice tig welds. Why did they use silicone couplers to make up for bends they could not make? You could have gone up at least one core size by welding an aluminum elbow directly on the supercharger and using one silicone coupler instead of the two couplers and the large radius bend they used.



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Old Jul 9, 2006 | 01:57 AM
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I didn't go with the bigger core b/c there's definitely no more room for a bigger one. It did use less piping, not as much as I'd originally thought. With the s/c there's basically no room to work with where it's at, so this is probably the shortest piping as you're gonna have. The boost loss is no big deal, I'll just get a pulley to make it up.
I am not trying to down grade your setup but it looks like they rushed right through this project. I guess I don't understand why they mig welded all your piping when all there turbo systems have nice tig welds. Why did they use silicone couplers to make up for bends they could not make? You could have gone up at least one core size by welding an aluminum elbow directly on the supercharger and using one silicone coupler instead of the two couplers and the large radius bend they used.



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I think that would have been substantially MORE difficult to complete, therefore increasing the cost.

Congrats bro. Now vids of the car under load would be viscious.
Old Jul 9, 2006 | 02:26 AM
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I didn't go with the bigger core b/c there's definitely no more room for a bigger one. It did use less piping, not as much as I'd originally thought. With the s/c there's basically no room to work with where it's at, so this is probably the shortest piping as you're gonna have. The boost loss is no big deal, I'll just get a pulley to make it up.
I am not trying to down grade your setup but it looks like they rushed right through this project.
It sounds to me like you are. I had the option of welding onto the s/c however I didn't want to do that because if I ever had problems, wanted to sell the s/c, or w/e it would be a biscuit to do. For the extensive work that had to be done the kit is beautiful and works MUCH better than expected.

They could've made and welded the bends that they used the couplers for however it would've been impossible to install or uninstall. A larger barrel is not needed, look at Sciondad's setup, he's using the same barrel and running a stage 1.
Old Jul 9, 2006 | 02:49 AM
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Originally Posted by kytc
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I didn't go with the bigger core b/c there's definitely no more room for a bigger one. It did use less piping, not as much as I'd originally thought. With the s/c there's basically no room to work with where it's at, so this is probably the shortest piping as you're gonna have. The boost loss is no big deal, I'll just get a pulley to make it up.
I am not trying to down grade your setup but it looks like they rushed right through this project.
It sounds to me like you are. I had the option of welding onto the s/c however I didn't want to do that because if I ever had problems, wanted to sell the s/c, or w/e it would be a biscuit to do. For the extensive work that had to be done the kit is beautiful and works MUCH better than expected.

They could've made and welded the bends that they used the couplers for however it would've been impossible to install or uninstall. A larger barrel is not needed, look at Sciondad's setup, he's using the same barrel and running a stage 1.
Sorry I did not mean to come off like that. I just expected more. If you like it and it works I guess thats all that matters.

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Old Jul 9, 2006 | 02:58 AM
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There's probably not another person that is as big of a perfectionist as me when it comes to cars. If there was a better way to do this that was feasible it would've been done, I promise you that.
Old Jul 9, 2006 | 03:21 AM
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One thing that im wondering about was .... now that you have a bov instead of a bpv ... how is it reading the correct amount of air if its being blown out instead of recirculated?
Old Jul 9, 2006 | 04:30 AM
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It actually hasn't been that big of a problem. It throws it off just a touch but it's not bad. The emanage ultimate will completely fix it. The biggest problem is just the idle is so rich it's ridiculous. At idle the afr's stay at 10 so it's a pain to keep alive at the stop light. After a day's experience afr's at cruise range from 14.7-15.2, Full throttle 11-13, idle 10. I'm actually pretty impressed with the TRD reflash and how it's managing it so well with the maf so messed up from the custom intake and it being so close to the s/c and a bov on it. Charles is ordering the ultimate for me Monday and I'll be out of town next week so three weeks from today is ultimate, injectors, and upped boost. I'm going to try and hook the AEM wideband up to it though and do the auto program if possible until I go to Charles.

I had my first major scare tonight on the way home, lol. I had just gotten on it and all of a sudden the car just starts going crazy, afr's drop to 10 and it sounds like a helicopter landing. So I limp home and found that I'd experienced my first charge pipe blow off. Needless to say it's ridiculously tight now and some t-bolt clamps are being ordered tomorrow.
Old Jul 9, 2006 | 04:39 AM
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wow tjhat looks insane!!! congrats, MORE VIDS!!!
Old Jul 9, 2006 | 04:41 AM
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My gf took another tonight of the bov inside the car when I was taking her home I'll try and get it up tomorrow.



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