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Old Mar 22, 2008 | 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by nebster
guess either way we really have no idea how bad it was but either way i'm sure things will be fixed properly.
i have a hunch that the exhaust manifold gasket was re-used.
Old Mar 22, 2008 | 12:24 AM
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i can see that.

in case everyone didn't know

NEW GASKETS SHOULD BE USED EVERY TIME A PART IS REPLACED.

exhaust leaks suck
Old Mar 22, 2008 | 01:26 AM
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All new gaskets were used through the whole install.....There was no turbo gasket which Paul assured me was fine and no down pipe gasket which Paul assured me was fine... Paul I was missing a couple of the manifold bolts which was not a big deal at all I got some a home depop for 17cence a piece.. the other thing I was missin was the S pipe bolts to the rest of my exhaust... once again not a big deal... I am just sad that I had to spend extra $$$ on something that I thought should be fine... On a high note Paul I have NEVER had a problem with you.... Every time I talk to you on the phone stuff gets done right.... I have called a number of times and talked to other people and I never get a definite answer.... I know your not always at your desk but when I make several request to have you call me back and you never receive them or you do and you just forget to call me back. it is very disappointing...I just want you to understand that it is unreasonable for a shop to loose a lift for a few days due to an error...not saying anyone in general but then the shop is loosing money to not just me. AS for the vacuum block Paul... Just send it to me please I have been fighting with you over this for over a week I have sent emails I don't know why your not receiving them I have sent 5 or6 from different emails just please.... your beating a dead horse Paul ... and please call me ASAP
Old Mar 22, 2008 | 02:32 AM
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^^No gasket for the turbo and no exhaust gasket? Every turbo kit I can think of has a gasket in those places. Oh well...there are good experiences, and then there are a few that slip through the cracks.
Old Mar 22, 2008 | 02:53 AM
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well... copper gasket should work ok but i would never do metal on metal.
Old Mar 22, 2008 | 03:32 AM
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Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
^^No gasket for the turbo and no exhaust gasket? Every turbo kit I can think of has a gasket in those places.
thats what I thought b/c the 2 other cars I have had boosted have had gaskets there.... But oh well .....Thats what I was told
Old Mar 22, 2008 | 04:15 AM
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Originally Posted by rozz-tC
not to get off topic but putting the vac hose on the wrong wastegate nipple will easily cause the engine to blow, its called overboost and when the boost pressure is holding the wastegate CLOSED the turbo will continue to build boost until either A. it reaches its max boost, or B. the engine grenades.

the top port is supposed to vent to atmosphere unless you're running a high boost application, while the bottom port is hooked into a vac source from your turbo or im
ok well, my bad, i guess i look like an @ss now...oh well
You and Chris (aka mightygnu are full of yourselves) get informed and then talk!!!

I guess having that supercharger alex sold you does not make you qualified to talk about turbo'd cars considering I have one there big guy!!!

And chris...I DONT LIKE DEZOD!!!! GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEAD!!!!
AFTER WHAT THEY DID TO PAULS MOTOR ON INSTALLATION, THERE LUCKY ....CANT TALK ABOUT THAT RIGHT NOW ....

Here is the link to what happen in case anybody is wondering what I am talking about:
https://www.scionlife.com/forums/vie...210796&start=0

one more thing we have some new evidence that show's dezod's at fault, I cant post that up right now....

ANYWAYS......
Old Mar 22, 2008 | 04:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr_Meaty
I just don't see how Joe could make a mistake like plugging the vac line to the wrong port on the WG...and if that did happen, why didn't anyone post it up on SL?
You know what bro if joe would of just been a man about all this instead of a child we wouldn't of got .........!!! I'll I got to say is pictures dont lie!!

we have proof....I cant post that up until......I have already said to much...will keep you updated!!!
Old Mar 22, 2008 | 05:18 AM
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Originally Posted by SLIVER007
Originally Posted by BuddhasTC
Originally Posted by rozz-tC
not to get off topic but putting the vac hose on the wrong wastegate nipple will easily cause the engine to blow, its called overboost and when the boost pressure is holding the wastegate CLOSED the turbo will continue to build boost until either A. it reaches its max boost, or B. the engine grenades.

the top port is supposed to vent to atmosphere unless you're running a high boost application, while the bottom port is hooked into a vac source from your turbo or im
ok well, my bad, i guess i look like an @ss now...oh well
You and Chris (aka mightygnu are full of yourselves) get informed and then talk!!!

I guess having that supercharger alex sold you does not make you qualified to talk about turbo'd cars considering I have one there big guy!!!

And chris...I DONT LIKE DEZOD!!!! GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEAD!!!!
AFTER WHAT THEY DID TO PAULS MOTOR ON INSTALLATION, THERE LUCKY ....CANT TALK ABOUT THAT RIGHT NOW ....

Here is the link to what happen in case anybody is wondering what I am talking about:
https://www.scionlife.com/forums/vie...210796&start=0

one more thing we have some new evidence that show's dezod's at fault, I cant post that up right now....

ANYWAYS......
Jason, I wasn't trying to start an argument in anyway. I just said every experience I have had with Dezod has been good. There are bad ones though, I am not doubting that. I talk to Paul(Anurok) almost everyday, so I think I know what has happened and I have also answered many of his questions.

As to what you cannot talk about, I think I know what that is, or have a pretty good idea.

Other then that, you have a pm! don't want to argue over nothing as I am not on anyone sides here.
Old Mar 22, 2008 | 05:23 AM
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not sure how long ago this happened but beware of the statute of limitations
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Originally Posted by nebster
not sure how long ago this happened but beware of the statute of limitations
Ben, It was recent... just lettin ya know.
Old Mar 22, 2008 | 05:30 AM
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thats fine, i understand just trying to make sure everything will be legit
Old Mar 22, 2008 | 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by JL56TC
All new gaskets were used through the whole install.....There was no turbo gasket which Paul assured me was fine and no down pipe gasket which Paul assured me was fine... Paul I was missing a couple of the manifold bolts which was not a big deal at all I got some a home depop for 17cence a piece.. the other thing I was missin was the S pipe bolts to the rest of my exhaust... once again not a big deal... I am just sad that I had to spend extra $$$ on something that I thought should be fine... On a high note Paul I have NEVER had a problem with you.... Every time I talk to you on the phone stuff gets done right.... I have called a number of times and talked to other people and I never get a definite answer.... I know your not always at your desk but when I make several request to have you call me back and you never receive them or you do and you just forget to call me back. it is very disappointing...I just want you to understand that it is unreasonable for a shop to loose a lift for a few days due to an error...not saying anyone in general but then the shop is loosing money to not just me. AS for the vacuum block Paul... Just send it to me please I have been fighting with you over this for over a week I have sent emails I don't know why your not receiving them I have sent 5 or6 from different emails just please.... your beating a dead horse Paul ... and please call me ASAP
Gasket, no one that I know of makes a 5 bolt Ford Stle, Gate Port discharge gasket for the turbine housing we use on the kit. I have NEVER seen one in 6 years of turboing cars. Turbonetics uses the same turbine housing on their turbos, and doesn't use a gasket to my knowledge.

With respect to the bolts, once again.....1st I am hearing, and I appologize. Nothing I can do if I don't hear about the problem.

Truth be told, I am rarely at my desk now-a-days, and we are getting more phone support for the tons of calls that we receive. That I can not control due to my increased responsibilities and duties here at the shop.

As for the block, I have rules to follow and need documentation from you to do so. No exceptions! If it was YOUR card being used, I could have done it, but your using your mom's card.

Please give me a jingle Monday morning around 9:30AM EST.
Old Mar 22, 2008 | 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by JL56TC
The lack of gaskets and certain missing parts really made it difficult for the tech to install...
Just wondering;

Did you look at all of your parts prior to dropping your car off to get the kit installed? One of the things any of the mechanics I know does *PRIOR* to even putting any part on a vehicle is to ensure all parts/tools are there. If anything does not seem right they [the mechanic/technician] will call the customer prior to installing or proceeding further.

I do not want to sound like a Dezod nut-hugger so do not take it as such, but, by your "tuner shop" taken action by belt sanding the manifold, it's pretty much out of Dezod's hands.

Originally Posted by JL56TC
He said and I quote.... The manifold was warped... I said what... theres no way. He showed me the gasket and sure enough there where high and low spots all over it...
I am assuming that you saw the gasket after it was installed and before it was put on the dyno. From the sounds of it, your tuner was smart enough not to proceed with the dyno, that is if there is not parts of the story that were left out.

Just a question for you, you do not have to answer them if you do not want to:

Did they sand down the manifold before or after you saw the high and low spots?


NOTE: I am not a part of Dezod Motorsports so I am not speaking on their behalf.
Old Mar 22, 2008 | 02:26 PM
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OH YEAH! I read that post about the dezod car blowing after tune, and then he ended up trading it in or whatever...dont' remember anything in there about a misinstalled vac line. But that WOULD explain the amount of engine damage as opposed to the given explanation of a "bad tune"
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Originally Posted by Mr_Meaty
OH YEAH! I read that post about the dezod car blowing after tune, and then he ended up trading it in or whatever...dont' remember anything in there about a misinstalled vac line. But that WOULD explain the amount of engine damage as opposed to the given explanation of a "bad tune"
Without any of us being there and seeing it first hand, this is a he said, she said at best.
Old Mar 22, 2008 | 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by nebster
not sure how long ago this happened but beware of the statute of limitations

I thought that only applied to criminal cases? My fiance is in pre-law, and she said she wasn't 100% sure but also was leaning on the side of that it only applied to crimial cases as well.
Old Mar 22, 2008 | 04:08 PM
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no, it pretty much applies to any incident.

for example, a car accident, they cannot file a lawsuit if its longer than like 2 years ago. its not just criminal it applies to anything.
Old Mar 22, 2008 | 04:28 PM
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Paul call me and I will use my check card if this is a big problem... I am Not in any way bashing Dezod..... I am simply amazed that there is only one person there who know any thing about customer service and being level headed (PAUL) and I just want to inform people of what they should look for if they choose to buy this kit. A Dezod employee... who will remain nameless just told me... "If I had a problem that I should post it on the form and do what I had to do but he couldn't help me" that is ____ty service.. Once again I am not bashing Dezod. I am simply disappointed
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Originally Posted by Mr_Meaty
OH YEAH! I read that post about the dezod car blowing after tune, and then he ended up trading it in or whatever...dont' remember anything in there about a misinstalled vac line. But that WOULD explain the amount of engine damage as opposed to the given explanation of a "bad tune"




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