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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 05:42 PM
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One question:

Whats your oil change history?
Old Jan 24, 2007 | 06:13 PM
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Of course the engine wasn't designed for boosting. Had it have been, the internals would have been forged and the compression ratio would have been opened up a little more. Having said that, it's not a BAD engine to boost. A lot of guys on here have gotten away with a lot with good tuning.

AGREED, NOT MEANT FOR BOOSTING.....its a family nice engine. vroom vroom
Old Jan 24, 2007 | 06:26 PM
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thanks ERIC-TC for all your valuable insight... Im just trying to gather whatever I can to help me fight this to get my car fixed.

and to BalistC, I change it at the dealer ~ 5000 miles after the light comes on ( when it first comes on and turns off after a few seconds ) I have that CareOne deal, with the prepaid maint.
Old Jan 24, 2007 | 09:57 PM
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Call a lawyer and let them know you're calling a lawyer.
Old Jan 25, 2007 | 03:15 AM
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I think you mean 500 miles after the light comes on and flashes. If you did do 5000 well good luck. Hope you get it fixed, I wonder if maybe there is a batch of bad oil pressure sensors that don't cause the light to go on until last minute? Is that possible?
Old Jan 25, 2007 | 05:05 AM
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what i ment is that i take it in every 5000 miles or so which is around the time that the light starts flashing
Old Feb 4, 2007 | 09:14 PM
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Any updates???
Old Feb 4, 2007 | 09:40 PM
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Old Feb 4, 2007 | 09:55 PM
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Dude, I am so sorry to hear this.

The dealer is not going to "fight" toyota on anything. They are simply going to tear down the motor and at that point -You will have the "GOTTI-SAGA" all over again.

They will say how they are helping you by getting toyota to pay for the engine parts and then will turn around and serve you a bill way in excess of $1,500 for labor to tear-down and replace whatever parts are damaged in your engine.

I hope that I'm 100% wrong on this matter.
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well for that reason im hoping the dept of consumer affairs will be able to help.
Old Feb 5, 2007 | 01:37 PM
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look man you have a 2006 car. that means that theres no reason why your car should loose 3.5 quarts of oil all of the sudden and i'm pretty sure thats why you bought a brand new car, so you wouldnt have to be checking the engine everytime you sit on the car. You contact a lawyer and take that dealer's sorry **s to court for selling unreliable products and giving them warranties and then when they break not wanting to cover it. Awbiously a seal in your SC took a s**t and you started burning oil without noticing.
Old Feb 5, 2007 | 09:20 PM
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The supercharged tC burns oil anyway. Its ridiculous. I sent this poor guy a message detailing my experience. FWIW, IMHO, it is entirely unsafe to run the supercharger without a catch can device, stock or pullied or whatever. I would lose EXACTLY 2 quarts of oil in varying intervals that ranged from 20 to 400 miles. Yes, thats a twenty.
The excess pressure, the blow-by, the sludge build-up, its all there and its all unacceptable. Its disgusting that the dealership is making an effort to NOT help this person when it would be so easy to do the opposite. Everybody would get paid and everybody would be happy.
Old Feb 6, 2007 | 04:16 AM
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My STOCK S/C tC blew its motor *sad face*

It happened on saturday... and for those who know the area it happened on I-680 South right before the Sunol Grade.

I was going 75 in the fast lane, and all of a sudden heard a clicking type of noise... all of a sudden i hear a pop.... there is white smoke coming out behind me, and my engine is shut off... I then started signaling and got my way over to the shoulder safely... at which point I opened my hood, and noticed what looked like my valve cover had some melting, and also noticed that my supercharger looked like it was leaking oil on it a little..

Anyway I had it towed to the dealer, and only had to pay $56 for over milage for the tow....

They gave me a rental ( 07 Camary V6 ) but I miss my car lol I hope all is covered by the warranty.... being that it is stock and barely over a year ( and the Tracy Toyota did the install work for me ) so it should be covered, and as I said, its stock.


*UPDATE* 1/22/07 4:30PM - Dublin Toyota REFUSES to cover under warranty due to the fact that they say that there was only 1.5qts of oil in it, even though no lights came on until 10 seconds before it seized... They say its neglect because I didnt check every single time I filled up... which I dont know how many of you check at every fill up ( I check like every 4 or so fill ups, and when on trips ) and I called scion customer care and they will have some one look into it, but I dont have much faith.... looks like im going to be stuck with paying for a new motor + install

*UPDATE* 1/22/07 6:00PM - I went down to Dublin Toyota and I just want to clarify why they wouldn't cover the repairs under warranty. From what I was told by the service manager, the regional manager or whatever was stating that since its in the manual that I must check my oil at every fill up that it is neglect that I did not do that. The bad news, as of right now they can not do anything for me, so I must pressure Scion and Toyota Corp to take care of it. Also they had to take back the rental car or else I would have to pay $50 a day.... that I dont really have free for that... The service manager was nice enough to pay for the weekend out of the dealers pocket so that I wouldnt have to. The dealer will work with me though in the event that toyota will not help me so that I can get my motor rebuilt... however I agree with the dealer that I should not have to do that!

*UPDATE* 1/23/07 3:00PM - Got a message from Scion Customer Care to call back. I called them back and at first she didnt quite understand what was wrong so I explained it all, including how I didnt check my oil at every fill up but that I did check it quite often. She wanted to ensure that I have had the work done at the dealer... Which I have, and she said that she would pull all the information and that she may have to have a factory tech look at it.

*UPDATE* 1/25/07 2:00PM - Got a call from Scion Customer Care, basically repeating what I already know... that due to the lack of oil in my car, they wont fix it, and that its my fault even if I checked the oil and it was fine, it is still my fault. The only suggestion they have for me is that I have it towed to a different dealer which would cost me quite a bit being that I only have the 5 mile tow from AAA. Also due to my current financial state I can not afford to pay for a rental car for the amount of time needed.

*UPDATE* 2/4/07 2:30PM - Currently the only update I have is I have authorized them to tear down the motor in the hopes they will find a failure due to a part and warranty..... but on the plus side, I have also been contacted by the department of consumer affairs - mediation and they are starting to work with me to help me out.

**Now for my request: The dealer has asked me to find any information of anyone who has had this happen (the engine problem like mine) regardless of what was modified on the car (if it was done by toyota or not) and to describe what was done to fix, as the dealer states that he will use it to fight with toyota. If you can post it, or send it to me in a PM id appreciate it and it would help me out a lot!**

I will keep you guys posted... never thought this would happen to me!

HaHa, Pleasanton... I was just up there a couple months ago opening a new account for my work. At the Stoneridge mall... where they just opened the new Cheesecake Factory, and a PF Changs was coming soon. That area looks like it's just starting to take off, developement wise.
Old Feb 6, 2007 | 04:22 AM
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why is it that every where there is a cheese cake factory there is also a pf changs?? here in riverside at the galleria mall they built a pf changs, then a cheese cake factory right next to each other


sorry off topic, you got any pics???

back on topic now
Old Feb 6, 2007 | 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by equinox2355
what i ment is that i take it in every 5000 miles or so which is around the time that the light starts flashing
On a F/I vehicle, I would say its better to go every 3000 miles. I usually go by Milage/ color of oil. I check my oil levels after prob ever other fill-up. It's usually fine, and then out of no-where it's down a quart.
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My car was about a year and half old when I threw a rod, but it was caused by sucking in some water 6 months before dureing flooding. It just didn't run well and had it in the shop once before for a check engine linght and they just changed the A/F solinod and than when it blew they didn't even bat an eye as my engine warrenty was like 60K/5years....even had it done in 3 days instead of a week or two like he wanred. Didn't pay a dime for my rental car either. Than had to take it back in a few months ago for anouther check engine light. My cat was all clogged up and they switched it out witha new one, again not a dine paid. So your dealer or the one your dealing with is ____ing BS. Realy check around for people in your area that had dealt with that dealership or others. Dealerships don't like doing warrenty work cause they don't make no money off it. So they normaly try to do what ever they can to not do the work and make you pay.
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its a dealer in california what can you expect
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Originally Posted by LIKE_OR_AS_GOD
My car was about a year and half old when I threw a rod, but it was caused by sucking in some water 6 months before dureing flooding. It just didn't run well and had it in the shop once before for a check engine linght and they just changed the A/F solinod and than when it blew they didn't even bat an eye as my engine warrenty was like 60K/5years....even had it done in 3 days instead of a week or two like he wanred. Didn't pay a dime for my rental car either. Than had to take it back in a few months ago for anouther check engine light. My cat was all clogged up and they switched it out witha new one, again not a dine paid. So your dealer or the one your dealing with is flippin' BS. Realy check around for people in your area that had dealt with that dealership or others. Dealerships don't like doing warrenty work cause they don't make no money off it. So they normaly try to do what ever they can to not do the work and make you pay.
When that happen to your car did you have any mods on it like an Intake or something?
Old Feb 6, 2007 | 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by cessblood
Originally Posted by LIKE_OR_AS_GOD
My car was about a year and half old when I threw a rod, but it was caused by sucking in some water 6 months before dureing flooding. It just didn't run well and had it in the shop once before for a check engine linght and they just changed the A/F solinod and than when it blew they didn't even bat an eye as my engine warrenty was like 60K/5years....even had it done in 3 days instead of a week or two like he wanred. Didn't pay a dime for my rental car either. Than had to take it back in a few months ago for anouther check engine light. My cat was all clogged up and they switched it out witha new one, again not a dine paid. So your dealer or the one your dealing with is flippin' BS. Realy check around for people in your area that had dealt with that dealership or others. Dealerships don't like doing warrenty work cause they don't make no money off it. So they normaly try to do what ever they can to not do the work and make you pay.
When that happen to your car did you have any mods on it like an Intake or something?
No it was stock, no intakes no headers..... I was planning on getting a MMW supercharger intake but glad that I didnt yet.
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It will be hard for them to blame it on the intake. they will have to prove to you that the intake cause your engine to blow up lol



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