I thought Dezoid was working on a fix to use the Emanage Ulimate and honestly thats about as good as a stand alone gets without rewiring the car. You can add a stand alone now, you want cut into your factor harness for just a bit more control? The Emange is just as effective as a stand alone with 90% of the apps out there.

Almost none of you will seriously drag race, open track race or whatever with your daily driver, you don't need a stand alone.

The supercharger with all the supporting mods if capable of well over 300hp and with the larger displacement of the 2.4L engine in this car, it makes more torque than your typical Vortech 4 cylinder install.

Also I bet this won't be the only kit of this type, you still have Procharger out there and they make Superchargers just like this. I'm sure they could design something and still come in about the same price as the TRD kit and it will be intercooled because that's just how they do things.

The results gained from pulley is RIGHT ON TARGET. He'll get way more once he opens up the exhaust and inlet tract.

250hp should be reachable in no time at all and if you concerned about tampering with the blower pulley you can always have a custom made larger crank pulley to give you the same effect with out removing the tamper proof cap...

 

I'm workin on getting the intake/exhaust's opened up, i got the s-pipe on the way, mainly because i bought a wideband o2 from innovative and i'm going to tap it in there. That way i can see what kind of A/F i'm getting up top with this 9lb pulley. That might give us all an indication on how the flash and injectors will work with more boost.

Once i get the wideband on, i'll get myself a header and exhaust and get on the dyno again. I'm still waiting on some other SC ready intakes other than umnitza.

 

sorry but u NEED a standalone to properly tune ANY F/I application. if u use a reflash, u could be blowing ur car up in the long run. every car is different and every ecu thinks differently, depending on ur location, weather conditions, etc. u cant put a preset map and tell the car to run in a certain way that another car was programmed to do. the TRD reflash is proabbaly a rich-based conservative map. but as u upgrade parts, u run into the chance of leaning out the a/f mixture. going too lean= bye bye car.

fine tuning a setup is the best way to run boost efficiently and putting out the most power with the given psi.

ie. when my buddy's rsx-s was s/c'd, it came with a reflash. he only put out 250whp. he upgraded to kpro and got it tuned professionally and made 290whp @6.8psi. another rsx buddy of mine got 550+whp via turbo at only 15psi. main part was the tuning. and these are daily driven cars too. after getting fine tuned, they still get close to factory spec gas mileage when not racing.

ecu management is need for boost to run EFFICIENTLY and SAFETLY. i will not work with any type of boost until there is a definite, sure-fire way to fine tune the ecu.

Greddy Emanage Ultimate is still a piggyback. chances are that the stock ecu will still try to correct the changes made by the Ultimate. later model cars are going wtih self-fixing ecus that makes it harder for piggybacks to tune correctly.

but Greddy EMU is the best so far as a standalone, and i'm planning to get it if its the only way.

 

No, you dont NEED a standalone to "properly" tune any car. You NEED a standalone if you want to control every aspect of your engine. A piggy back is just as effcient when it is used properly and has been proven to be an "efficient" means of tuning on just about any car. Different cars work better with different piggybacks, but you dont have to have a standalone to tune for the levels off boost that 99.9 percent of people on this board are making.

Charles

 

what i'm saying is the only piggyback thats the most efficient is Greddy's EMU.

i only made my post because i'm getting an impression that some people are saying that the s/c is not putting out good #'s in their book. what they are forgeting is the tuning part of the car. tuning is as important as any bolt-on, when dealing with F/I.

the threadstarter should try out Greddy's EMU and can get even better #'s. when changing the pulley, u're also changing the a/f ratio, off from what the stock reflash is intended for.

 

Thats total BS... please go read up on the unichip piggy back system... Unlike Greddy which changes signals going into the ecu it changes the output signals.... Which is much better.

I mean have you not heard about the problems the Greddy piggy backs are having?

 

 

Someone has obviously never used a unichip system. Someone is also obviously completely uneducated. Educate, contemplate, then communicate.

Charles

 

Can someone explain to me the differences between the different systems I understand that the emange works by feeding info to the ecu ( which isnt good because the ecu fight it?) a unichip changes information after the ecu? Correct? so right now if i got a sc or a tc for my car and was palnning on running8-10 psi boost what would be good?

 

Check out the second half of this video and see how fast my boost climbs compaired to the SC. I'm not putting anything down, I'm just shocked to see the boost climb difference since everyone always talks about "turbo lag".

Click here

Gauge is shown at 1:45 into the video if you want to skip to it.

 

Yea, i was a little surprised to see how slow the boost climbs with the supercharger.. but i didn't really know what to expect being that i'd never owned one before. We need to just keep buying smaller and smaller pullies i suppose haha

 

changin the BPV will help fix this....it is still not a roots style blower though so this will always be an issue...If you extended the RPM range i think it would make a big diffrence on the track

 

changin the BPV will help fix this....it is still not a roots style blower though so this will always be an issue...If you extended the RPM range i think it would make a big diffrence on the track

 

lol, yes i'm uneducated about the tc's engine management options. educate me. has anyone on this board started using it (unichip)? more info about this would help me. i'm trying to invest in ecu managemnet right now before boost.

 

Hey has any one gone to the track with the S/C yet? I havent seen any numbers, It sould be nice to see stock tc/sc vs zpi plulley sc...

 

The supercharger came out at the wrong time for those of us where it snows.

 

I'll see if i can make it out to the track sometime soon.. I'm thinking with traction, just by feel.. the car should be able to pull around 98mph trap speeds in the 1/4. Getting a good 60ft will be key though.

 

I don't see why there'd be a problem running a track with a few inches of snow and some ice on it, lol. Heard the news talk about another Noreaster in a day or two...

 

don't worry about the boost. ZPI is gonna make some kick ___ stuff thats gonna really help out the supercharger. The pulley is one thing that will help raise the boost level and also make more boost in the lower rpm range, the bpv will also help significantly, and then once they come out with the intake that will also yeild some good power. But until then do your exhaust and s-pipe, or engine management if you have the money.
all you need to do is wait for the good stuff to come out and you will be very very happy.

 

I was going to say something, but I don't want to cause an argument. Keep rockin it guys Boost for everyone I say!