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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 09:31 PM
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Manifold will be finished tomorrow. Some other affairs came into place delaying it. Most of it is done. We need to weld the flange for the turbo and wastegate, and finish some positioning. Pics up tomorrow night.
Old Aug 10, 2005 | 10:59 PM
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Update: Plug and play system will definately be available for the tC with or without our kit. Refer to this thread for more info and pricing/buying information:
https://www.scionlife.com/forums/vie...=971696#971696.

It will not be included with our turbo kit, but it will be an option. We want to keep the base price of this kit low enough for those who need/want to save as much as possible. The package price with a purchase of the turbo kit will be an option, but the harness may not be available as soon as the kit, due to the pre-order we're making.

If there are extra harnesses in stock, then they will ship out with the kit, to all those who paid for the upgrade.
Old Aug 11, 2005 | 02:20 AM
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Does the EManage allow you to select different levels of boost on the fly? Like with some presets? Or is it not a boost controller?
Old Aug 11, 2005 | 02:53 AM
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so, does this mean that you will be running 8 lbs of boost without an emanage or anything of that sort? just stock ecu, with upgraded injectors but no new fuel map of any sort?
Old Aug 11, 2005 | 03:17 AM
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Originally Posted by xyouthx
so, does this mean that you will be running 8 lbs of boost without an emanage or anything of that sort? just stock ecu, with upgraded injectors but no new fuel map of any sort?
I have the same question. According to your components list it will include the EMS with a base map, but I'm assuming that if we don't buy the harness will have to do our own wiring. What's going on? Are customers getting the EMS without the harness or are customers getting no EMS and no harness.
Old Aug 11, 2005 | 02:02 PM
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Ok sorry for the confusion. Regardless, the BASE kit, meaning bare-bones, will still come with an Emanage and upgraded fuel injectors.

The harness is simply an option/upgrade to allow for easier installation of the included emanage. You will have the emanage and upgraded injectors no matter what. We won't sell our kit without those two. The harness is to make life easier for everyone and allow members to go back to stock or eventually a full stand-alone because you aren't actually cutting anything.
Old Aug 11, 2005 | 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Meaty
Does the EManage allow you to select different levels of boost on the fly? Like with some presets? Or is it not a boost controller?
The emanage is NOT a boost controller. It is simply for ignition and fuel. We can sell you a Profec E-01 which is a digital boost controller with screen. It also programs the emanage and the emanage can use it for the pressure sensor, saving you about $75 or so. The E-01 is costly though, close to $500.
Old Aug 11, 2005 | 02:43 PM
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sounds excellent, i cant imagine anyone that wouldn't choose to go with a plug n' play harness over doin the wire work themselves. Sounds good.
Old Aug 11, 2005 | 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe@Dezod
Originally Posted by Mr Meaty
Does the EManage allow you to select different levels of boost on the fly? Like with some presets? Or is it not a boost controller?
The emanage is NOT a boost controller. It is simply for ignition and fuel. We can sell you a Profec E-01 which is a digital boost controller with screen. It also programs the emanage and the emanage can use it for the pressure sensor, saving you about $75 or so. The E-01 is costly though, close to $500.
But we can use any boost controller we want right?
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Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
But we can use any boost controller we want right?
Yes you can! We sell a lot of MBCs and EBCs so you can do whatever you'd like. The Profec E-01 is nice, but the support tool/laptop setup is much better for tuning.

The combo of choice is the Emanage, support tool (for laptop), and Greddy Profec B SpecII.

Even though I've owned a Blitz EBC on my last car, and loved it, we will not be selling Blitz EBCs with the turbo kit at all. They are made with a switch in the back, to be set for either internal wastegate or external wastegate. Our kit is externally gated, and the Blitz setting is meant for Japanese wastegates. For some reason, the Tial doesn't work well with the Blitz EBC (SBC Spec-S), because it's American. Tial is a great product, and Greddy works remarkably well with them.

For manual boost controllers it won't matter as much. Hope that helps!
Old Aug 11, 2005 | 09:59 PM
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This might be a weird question but can I keep my oem foglights with the FMIC down there?
Old Aug 11, 2005 | 11:46 PM
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It could actually fit, but you may have to modify the braket to sit the IC slightly farther back. Also, modifying/extending the foglight harness may be necessary. Could work though, I guess it's worth posting if successful! I'll look into that in the meantime.
Old Aug 12, 2005 | 10:14 PM
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***Update 8-12-2005!!
Before the actual update... We need more opinions from you guys again. Do you want the Stage 1 kits to have the wastegate routed back into the down pipe (more money), or vent/dump downward (cheaper, louder)? It's up to you guys, we'll end up doing one or the other. Stage 2 kits will all dump, not go back into the exhaust, as it performs better.

We did it! The turbo manifold is complete and we finally got it the way we wanted. The final charge pipes and full exhaust systems will be done the last week of this month. After that, we're good to go!

Here's some pics of what it will look like, roughly...




Old Aug 12, 2005 | 11:14 PM
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As long as it goes PSSSHHHHH pretty noticably when you shift I'm down.

But seriously - is it just a preference thing or does one or the other have advantages?
Old Aug 13, 2005 | 12:54 AM
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Dumping is louder (much louder) at wide open throttle and full boost. It performs slightly better.

Routing it into the exhaust is much quieter, and does't perform as well, but it won't perform poorly.
Old Aug 13, 2005 | 12:58 AM
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Dump It!!
Old Aug 13, 2005 | 01:01 AM
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So long as there are no fuel problems like the kid with the SS kit has...?

Pardon my ignorance if required.
Old Aug 13, 2005 | 01:03 AM
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Feeding the wastegate off the collector is a MUCH better design that feeding it off one runner as in other kits, ESPECIALLY on low boost applications where creep will become an issue.
Old Aug 13, 2005 | 01:30 AM
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i agree, dump that shiz.
Old Aug 13, 2005 | 02:51 AM
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If dumping is cheaper, louder (better) and performs better, thers' no question! I need to compete with the SRT-4 across the street! That sucker sounds BAAAAADDD!
As long as it's street legal.

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