if you got 365lbs of torque at 8lbs your tuner must be jesus

 

He has a lot of work into that car and it looks awesome. But no offense....you should get a second opinion on those dyno numbers. 293whp/365tq on a Dyno Dynamics with 8lbs of boost? I would advise you to get another run somewhere else.

 

We've gotten similiar tq numbers with the greddy kit on our dyno, but our customer had 9:1 forged piston and rods, 3" downpipe, 3" exhaust and 18 lbs of boost not 8lbs.

MrC

 

Those numbers just wreak of wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong.

 

I forgot to mention that my car is running with the AEM methanol injection kit, 100% methanol, and the numbers are similar on a dyno pack dyno as well.

The tuner is pretty popular here in the northwest, Bobby @ Performance Race Engineering located in Gresham, OR. http://www.preracing.com He is well known for tuning subarus, but his torque numbers always come out insanely high. He has a niche for that area of tuning from what I hear.

Feel free to give him a call if you think that he fluffed the numbers but I am 100% confident the dyno numbers on my car are actual numbers.

Prior to the methanol injection, my car was tuned @ 6 psi, it was about 255whp/260 torque with just the greddy kit, from a different tuner though.

I'm also running the greddy emanage ultimate piggyback ecu w/ 440cc injectors. I don't recommend this fuel management lol but I was limited in my funds. Hopefully the Dezod AEM Standalone soon.

 

Was that the tC that beat me at the dyno shootout? He made like 302 on 12lbs that day, when I made 295 on 12.

 

Ouch...

Thank god I don't use dyno numbers to gauge how my car performs.

 

The Ultimate is the best Piggy back setup you can buy. Of course it's not a Standalone but it's the closest you can get without being a standalone.

The Ultimate is what PTuning ran in 2008 on their Time Attack tC. They recently went to the New Haltech Standalone that they are now being a retailer for.

 

i made 360ftpounds on 8 psi spring but im running ethanol and a biger turbo

 

440 cc injectors greddy turbo kit low boost.. Why did i even waste all this money on my car.. i could just spend a couple thousand and gotten your tuner to do my car a BAM.. tq MASTTTAA!

Sorry to be a ___.. but those numbers are not right bud.. If the cars runs great that the #1 thing.. but if ur wanting to brag on those dyno numbers i would bet money on even a dynapac dyno on a good pull you could not pull that off...

Unless in that range there was a spike in boost to like 20 psi..

 

I don't doubt that the ultimate is the best piggy back setup, but I'm saying that I personally don't recommend it, and would recommend just getting a full standalone. I have been following the Ptuning thread about the haltech standalone as well, and am aware of that.

If the tc MrC was talking about had similar numbers with the same kit but with the 9:1 forged pistons and rods, and 3 inch exhaust that sounds to me like it could be the tuner not being able to tune the car to its potential. I'm not saying that the person who tuned my car is better than the one who tuned that car at ptuning, every tuner has there own style and niche, but I know my tune is a conservative one and I've been on this tune for almost 6 months, daily driving the car as well.



I know this is a rude comment, but maybe you should of researched on turbo kits more before you spent all that money on your car. Your ignorance to the tuning factor could be costing you all that power. I could have a GT35R turbo on my car and only put down 250whp if I didn't have someone who could tune it right. And if you want to talk about spending a lot of money on your car, I've spent well over thousands to get the car running right and to find someone who was confident in being able to tune it right, since I've had bad experiences elsewhere in the pacific northwest.

You can believe what you want to believe but I have proof of my car putting down those numbers with the Greddy kit, along with the dyno sheet @ 8psi. I don't need to lie to anyone about my car, especially brag about it when that gets me nowhere, and like i said earlier if you or anyone are interested in hearing how he achieved those numbers call the tuner Bobby personally and talk to him. Aside from that, I'm not quoting numbers coming from dyno days either, these are corrected numbers. The dyno sheet was a pull straight from the tune, so the dyno was calibrated as well.

Sorry for putting this thread off topic, I was just posting my dyno sheet since the greddy kit was part of the poll.

 

^ its not that man - its the fact that there is not a single person anywhere near those numbers at 8lbs. Typical hp/trq at 8lbs is 260whp/260wtrq ...... see why were are questioning it? Your trq is no where near that.

 

^^On what dyno? Definitely not PTUNING @ 8psi I would expect 240ish but with a 3" exhaust higher. However, if you're speaking in general terms, not dyno specific, then I would agree with you.

 

This thread is going to get interesting.

Those numbers are not based on a 4th gear, closest 1:1, pull. That much is very obvious.

I'm sure you put power down but definitely not that and to say that you believe those numbers really says something. It doesn't take much to look around and see real 8psi boosted tC numbers compare them to yours and say a 140wtq difference and 50whp difference is possible with only tuning.

It wouldn't matter is the tuning god descended to tune your car it just isn't likely.

If those numbers are truly real your ign map must be blazing hot.

 

yea like 35 degrees on race gas at that rpm!

 

I can ask him if he has more graphs available but unfortunately for me, I don't know what he did to get to those numbers. I can't explain his tuning methods. He recommended me getting methanol injection, and running 100% meth not 50/50 mixed with water, and thats how I got to those numbers with his tune.
If you look at the dyno sheet you can see that there wasn't a boost spike. I said earlier @ 6 psi I had about 255 whp/260 torque without methanol, and just running premium gas. Anyone who wants to ask how he did this tune, call him for yourself and he can explain how he got to that number.

 

Simmer down....simmer down

 

Just to add to this, read the blog post about the turbo xB with the same motor as the tC, stock internals too:

http://www.descendant-racing.com/blog/

Descendant racing's turbo xB put down 330WHP with there bolt on turbo kit (non methanol injected)

http://www.world-motorsports.com/wms...20870f0681c67b


With someone like Chris Rado's xB putting down that similar power with a similar kit, should we question his dyno numbers too?

If you are turbo'd ecko04, sorry for your ignorance as well. Unfortunately you haven't found the right tuning god yet for your car, so I'd be upset too if you aren't hitting similar numbers as I am.

 

^ i was wrong - your tuner was jesus - sorry - my mistake

 

Theres no convincing you bro..

Like i said be happy its running good..

dont be happy with your mislead dyno sheet..

Maybe the car was in first gear and they floorred it..

but thats not a 4th gear from a dig pullll