SNEAK PEAK AT ONE SWEET NEW TURBO KIT COMING OUT SOON!
Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
That manifold is the one Full Race developed. Their are only two made so far. ZPI has the first one, and the Second one is on a 10 sec tC that was seen in the video in the F/I section. I believe the thread title is "Finally a Fast Streetable tC"....or something to that effect.
But yes, ZPI has been sitting on that manifold for a long time. It's finally about to be put to use...Probably into Brian's car (Customer car).
Secondly......PEOPLE....I can be cruising at 120mph, and STILL not be in boost. It doesn't matter what size the turbo is. If you are cruising, you will be in Vaccum. Unless you are Accelerating, THEN you will hit boost. But if you are just crusing, then your turbo is not boosting. When you give it some gas, turbo spools, and you hit boost.
So, 80mph cruise isn't going to be any different than 60mph cruise....You still will be in Vac.
But yes, ZPI has been sitting on that manifold for a long time. It's finally about to be put to use...Probably into Brian's car (Customer car).
Secondly......PEOPLE....I can be cruising at 120mph, and STILL not be in boost. It doesn't matter what size the turbo is. If you are cruising, you will be in Vaccum. Unless you are Accelerating, THEN you will hit boost. But if you are just crusing, then your turbo is not boosting. When you give it some gas, turbo spools, and you hit boost.
So, 80mph cruise isn't going to be any different than 60mph cruise....You still will be in Vac.
And yes, Travis is correct. Some people for some reason have this vision in there head that turbos or superchargers make boost 24-7 while driving. They think they sit at a stoplight in boost, they think they are just cruising in boost. Boost is only made when the throttle plate opens, intake manifold goes to 0 vac, wastegate slams shut and makes the turbo spin up like a ****. All that happenes in a split second and then the boost gauge goes to full "weeeeee" as it swings into positive manifold pressure!
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Originally Posted by Garage1217
Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
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Travis, here is the main difference between a stage 1 log and this type of setup...
296whp at 8 psi on an uber safe tune
Simply put, a setup this efficient making this power at low boost will walk all over a log kit at the same psi or even 2-4 more psi running the 1320. Sure you guys spool much quicker with your tiny turbos and that probably makes it fun bouncing in and out of boost all the time like a lot of the oem setups, and yeah if you only race running through 1 quick gear and then lifting, then you may have some advantage unless the other driver knows what he is doing
But were you actually drive a car when running it hard in the mid - high rpm range, the power output just is not available as a log style and tiny turbo is just not efficient enough. You guys can argue 2500rpm boost levels all you like, but once you have driven with a setup like this you will understand it is no toy and not somthing to poke a stick at. Power is focused exactly were I want it if I am running it hard, torque a monster. FAR more than I ever expected out of stock internals. Anyways who drives there car around at 2500-2800rpm? Auto tranny drivers? Come on guys! haha.
Another nice fact, 4200 rpm = 304ft lbs @ 10 psi running high 10's a/f wise with a lot of timing pulled for testing *LOL*
Something even more fun 296whp @ 8 psi on an uber safe tune, Intense is going to get her out of the uber safe testing tune and at 8 psi I guarantee she will be making a little over 300+ whp at low boost! Try to do that with a 16G and a log. I pretty much only see 230-250whp runs at this boost level.
I simply love the way she runs, does not bounce into and out of boost with cruise control on eating gas and does not have to bouce into boost while taking a small hill. Driving this baby is bliss, and I am happy to take a freeway vid of how she spools! I plan a lot of vids.
I also WELCOME the locals in az to come check it out, will take locals out for a spin that want to feel the difference in power. I have a local guy running a stage 0 zpi and a few local buds running dezod kits. I am happy to let them give there opinion at how this car runs at 8 psi compared to there own cars at 10psi hehe
Here is the uber safe dyno run at 10 psi with the intense power kit. Please post up all of your dyno runs here if you want a side by side comparison! Then, I will be posting up this kits 8 psi run vs your 10 psi+ runs!
Also guys, do NOT forget! This testing was all done with a STOCK exhaust! Wait until the flow restriction is all free... then more numbers to come hehe.
296whp at 8 psi on an uber safe tune
Simply put, a setup this efficient making this power at low boost will walk all over a log kit at the same psi or even 2-4 more psi running the 1320. Sure you guys spool much quicker with your tiny turbos and that probably makes it fun bouncing in and out of boost all the time like a lot of the oem setups, and yeah if you only race running through 1 quick gear and then lifting, then you may have some advantage unless the other driver knows what he is doing
But were you actually drive a car when running it hard in the mid - high rpm range, the power output just is not available as a log style and tiny turbo is just not efficient enough. You guys can argue 2500rpm boost levels all you like, but once you have driven with a setup like this you will understand it is no toy and not somthing to poke a stick at. Power is focused exactly were I want it if I am running it hard, torque a monster. FAR more than I ever expected out of stock internals. Anyways who drives there car around at 2500-2800rpm? Auto tranny drivers? Come on guys! haha.Another nice fact, 4200 rpm = 304ft lbs @ 10 psi running high 10's a/f wise with a lot of timing pulled for testing *LOL*
Something even more fun 296whp @ 8 psi on an uber safe tune, Intense is going to get her out of the uber safe testing tune and at 8 psi I guarantee she will be making a little over 300+ whp at low boost!
Try to do that with a 16G and a log. I pretty much only see 230-250whp runs at this boost level.I simply love the way she runs, does not bounce into and out of boost with cruise control on eating gas and does not have to bouce into boost while taking a small hill. Driving this baby is bliss, and I am happy to take a freeway vid of how she spools! I plan a lot of vids.
I also WELCOME the locals in az to come check it out, will take locals out for a spin that want to feel the difference in power. I have a local guy running a stage 0 zpi and a few local buds running dezod kits. I am happy to let them give there opinion at how this car runs at 8 psi compared to there own cars at 10psi hehe
Here is the uber safe dyno run at 10 psi with the intense power kit. Please post up all of your dyno runs here if you want a side by side comparison! Then, I will be posting up this kits 8 psi run vs your 10 psi+ runs!
Also guys, do NOT forget! This testing was all done with a STOCK exhaust! Wait until the flow restriction is all free... then more numbers to come hehe.
At this point, we are really just talking with #'s. I need to see this on the street. I'm just not convinced that a larger turbo with the Same amount of HP output is going to overtake a smaller faster spooling turbo with the same amount of HP output.
Your just going to have to convince me with a little action...
Prefereably with a race.... Coming to the ShootOut...
You can come out here and race in the heat anytime you like, tell me when your gonna roll out and I will be there! Will be a blast. Besides that. don't you guys mainly have crappy 1/8th mile tracks mainly..? What I heard anyways and that blows. Also the HP numbers are very very different in were the kits make power, they do not put out the exact same hp at the exact same points. Look at the graphs man, with the smaller turbos, you can clearly see the other effect a tiny quick spooling turbo has which is not so hot top end which is were you spend time playing when your running through gears. That is also why the company you pray to and love so much wanted to go to a manifold design such as the full race unit and run a larger turbo. They were not going to make all that happen with a log and a 16g haha!
1/8th mile? Heck no bro, I don't run 1/8th mile. 1320 FTW! Besides.....I if you ran me in the 1/8th mile anyway, I would feel like I was taking advantage of you and your Full boost at 4200rpm..
I would be crossing the 1/8th mile line, and you would probably just now be getting halfway there.... 
I kid, I kid..
Umm...they were doing the manifold test, because Kenny is a GO BIG OR GO HOME! type guy. So, when we start talking BUILT motors, then we are all on the same boat in saying that you will need to go bigger. But on Stock Motors....Sorry, I'm sticking with my 16G.
By the way, Brian(Jester) got his car back today. At 2700 RPM's he is making somewhere around 383lbs. AT 2700RPM's!!!!
So much for small turbos huh...
Phase 2 is a 3076R turbo and Full Race manifold.
I'm getting a vid of the car tomorrow when he takes me for a spin, so keep your eyes peeled.
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By the way, Brian(Jester) got his car back today. At 2700 RPM's he is making somewhere around 383lbs. AT 2700RPM's!!!!
So much for small turbos huh...
Phase 2 is a 3076R turbo and Full Race manifold.
I'm getting a vid of the car tomorrow when he takes me for a spin, so keep your eyes peeled.
So much for small turbos huh...
Phase 2 is a 3076R turbo and Full Race manifold.
I'm getting a vid of the car tomorrow when he takes me for a spin, so keep your eyes peeled.
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Originally Posted by bcnu_702
By the way, Brian(Jester) got his car back today. At 2700 RPM's he is making somewhere around 383lbs. AT 2700RPM's!!!!
So much for small turbos huh...
Phase 2 is a 3076R turbo and Full Race manifold.
I'm getting a vid of the car tomorrow when he takes me for a spin, so keep your eyes peeled.
So much for small turbos huh...
Phase 2 is a 3076R turbo and Full Race manifold.
I'm getting a vid of the car tomorrow when he takes me for a spin, so keep your eyes peeled.
Yeah, and that's not even at max. When trying to max out, it was futile on trying to dyno it, because the wheels kept spinning and the graph jumps all over and breaks up trying to read it.
He can not go Part throttle boosting because his Motor flows SO much over the 16G, and out flowing the turbo....He explained that barely.....and I mean BARELY give the gas pedal some pressure, he would hit 10lbs of boost. And one shouldn't be part throttling 10lbs of boost. So, right now, it's ***** to the WALL....(our your stomach for this matter), or you drive normal.
But I feel like I'm thread jacking, so I'll shut up about the latest ZPI creation to hit the street. I'll stick to talking about it in his thread.
Sweet man sounds wicked! Also guys, got to take her out on the street and take a long 150 mile drive tonight. I was way off with the full boost at 4200 hehehe. Now that I got to play with it and toy with it she makes full boost by 3400rpm and is around 7 psi at 3200 rpm
And Travis, I am not sure if you start out driving your car in second gear but this baby will eat you even in the 1/8th. If you have not noticed when you race, you spend your time above 4000 rpm come on man, we do not drag from 2800rpm rolls in 4th gear hahaha. Once through 1st, she stays at full boost and never out of the powerband until I spank the 127mph mark with ease. Cannot wait to get her to the track and until then I will keep my mouth shut as numbers tell all
On a side note with this larger turbo. If I do a pull from 60mph in 5th she is a little slower to respond than a small turbo and that is to be expected / jumps straight to 5 psi then 8. but at 70mph boost comes on darn fast running to 8 very quick. At 80mph with cruise on resting in vac and just flooring it she slams full boost darn near as fast as my supercharger *LOL* so much for the slow laggy turbo setup haha.
And Travis, I am not sure if you start out driving your car in second gear but this baby will eat you even in the 1/8th. If you have not noticed when you race, you spend your time above 4000 rpm
come on man, we do not drag from 2800rpm rolls in 4th gear hahaha. Once through 1st, she stays at full boost and never out of the powerband until I spank the 127mph mark with ease. Cannot wait to get her to the track and until then I will keep my mouth shut as numbers tell all On a side note with this larger turbo. If I do a pull from 60mph in 5th she is a little slower to respond than a small turbo and that is to be expected / jumps straight to 5 psi then 8. but at 70mph boost comes on darn fast running to 8 very quick. At 80mph with cruise on resting in vac and just flooring it she slams full boost darn near as fast as my supercharger *LOL* so much for the slow laggy turbo setup haha.
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Originally Posted by Garage1217
Sweet man sounds wicked! Also guys, got to take her out on the street and take a long 150 mile drive tonight. I was way off with the full boost at 4200 hehehe. Now that I got to play with it and toy with it she makes full boost by 3400rpm and is around 7 psi at 3200 rpm
And Travis, I am not sure if you start out driving your car in second gear but this baby will eat you even in the 1/8th. If you have not noticed when you race, you spend your time above 4000 rpm come on man, we do not drag from 2800rpm rolls in 4th gear hahaha. Once through 1st, she stays at full boost and never out of the powerband until I spank the 127mph mark with ease. Cannot wait to get her to the track and until then I will keep my mouth shut as numbers tell all
On a side note with this larger turbo. If I do a pull from 60mph in 5th she is a little slower to respond than a small turbo and that is to be expected / jumps straight to 5 psi then 8. but at 70mph boost comes on darn fast running to 8 very quick. At 80mph with cruise on resting in vac and just flooring it she slams full boost darn near as fast as my supercharger *LOL* so much for the slow laggy turbo setup haha.
And Travis, I am not sure if you start out driving your car in second gear but this baby will eat you even in the 1/8th. If you have not noticed when you race, you spend your time above 4000 rpm
come on man, we do not drag from 2800rpm rolls in 4th gear hahaha. Once through 1st, she stays at full boost and never out of the powerband until I spank the 127mph mark with ease. Cannot wait to get her to the track and until then I will keep my mouth shut as numbers tell all On a side note with this larger turbo. If I do a pull from 60mph in 5th she is a little slower to respond than a small turbo and that is to be expected / jumps straight to 5 psi then 8. but at 70mph boost comes on darn fast running to 8 very quick. At 80mph with cruise on resting in vac and just flooring it she slams full boost darn near as fast as my supercharger *LOL* so much for the slow laggy turbo setup haha.
Stop talking and start tapping....
And I'm waiting on those "will kill little turbo" track #'s too. So, I can compare how much boost I would need to run to stay with the lower boosting bigger turbos.
Originally Posted by RoswellScion
Wow. Congratulations to you Jeremey and Intense! This is awesome. I will be over to PHX a few more times this summer and will expect to get a ride. ;) I have to see what it feels like before I buy it...kinda like a nice pair of shoes.
Hurry and get down here! You will be grinning ear to ear after a quick ride with this setup
*LOL* Oh man, you can handle it No such thing as TO MUCH HP!
Unless of course your tires simply explode everytime you touch the gas... that would suck nuggets..
No such thing as TO MUCH HP!Unless of course your tires simply explode everytime you touch the gas... that would suck nuggets..
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Naa I get my thrills on 2 wheels 998cc 75 hp in a '78 R100S boxer with tefloned gears and a feather shifter that will climb from 3000 rpm to redline in a few seconds in 5th and still get up to 60mpg.
Oh YEAH! Spare motor is at the garage ready for the build to start as well as the spare tranny Let the fun begin! Still waiting for an open track night 
Notta at firebird until May....
Let the fun begin! Still waiting for an open track night Notta at firebird until May....
