My thoughts exactly...

 

I have been thinking about a supercharger for myself since its different and they have that huge price drop now. But if I could get my hands on a stage zero or something similair I might change my mind.

 

yea i know,... that price drop is unbelieveable whcih makes me wanna buy it on the spot but turbos put out more power which is why im undecided. What's a BOV?

 

BOV = Blow Off Valve

 

I think you guys got off track of helping this kid out. I think this kid would be better off with the S/C, its a bit safer as far as being warranteed. If the turbo is not installed/tuned properly then that could be a big mess..especially if hes not doing the work himself. For people that know nothing about going turbo I think should stick to the s/c. Wouldn't maintaining the turbo be more costly and constant than a s/c also?

 

No it is not. S/C'er has been known to leak oil like any seal on turbo's can. It has just as much maintenance as any turbo application. Secondly, because the dealership is always shaddy about doing maintenance work (looking for every excuse NOT to give you a warranty), it has been proven to be a hassle to get warranty work done if your S/C'er gives out.....EVEN if it is completely stock..

 

Well, think about it this way:

When you buy the supercharger and get it installed, it's probably done at the dealer which may or may not have any mechanics who have ever worked on a performance vehicle, and all the tuning is done off site, and just uploaded onto the car.

When you buy the turbocharger and get it installed, it's probably done by an expert (because there is no warranty, so why jinx it?) who sees performance vehicles all day, and tuned special for that car.

Looking at it from that point of view, I'd say the S/C is a bigger gamble as far as maintenance is concerned.

 

i really dont see the big gamble. First of all, before you buy a supercharger you find the most qualified person to do it, you dont give it to the first mechanic that walks up to you. secondly, if he has not done any modifications to the car, then he will not have a problem. If he already modified it then how much will it cost that person to change a bearing or seal? 80-100? Then again if you buy a turbo kit, you have no warranty if you blow your motor or the turbo, is coming out of your pocket.

 

I've heard some people who blow motors on the SCer still have to pay for it out of pocket too. Even running stock, people have had to pay out of pocket for it. Secondly...I'm not sure I'm following your example at all. If you want the TRD warranty, you have to get it installed at the dealer. Normally, that means the dealer has to buy the parts as well. And if your dealer is anything like mine, then the mechanics will be...whoever happened to come in that day. And if they mess up the install due to lack of experience, and it fails, and you don't know your car inside and out, then you could end up having to pay for "abuse" when it was the installers fault.

With the turbo kit, you get to pick the kit, pick the installers and pick the tuners. And yes, if a part fails, then it's your responsibility. But then again, a good, experienced installer should be able to tell you whether parts will be a problem before they button the car up. That's the difference between the experience factor I was trying to convey.

Sorry if it didn't come out that way. :D

 

^^ well you could install it in the street and only get a 1 year 12k warranty if you want your mechanic to install it. I cant really give my opinion about the people you know that have blown their motors cuz i dont know any details, but i wouldnt have bent over n taken it up the a$$. Well, the dealer i went to had only one guy who installed the SC, which had done it a few times before and i spoke to him personally.

 

I don't remember who it was, but someone posted that they had the dealr instal the SC, then it blew, and they said it was due to an oil leak. He had records or keeping up with his oilchanges, but the dealer said "In the user manual, it says to check our oil every time you fill up with gas." Since he did not check his oil ever time he filled up with gas, they said it was his fault and they would not cover the cost.
Some warantee, eh?

 

Oh absolutely. I'd love my dealer for that.

 

^^and who is gonna proof he didnt check the oil??

 

I'm just saying, I'm sure it veries greatly from dealership to dealership.
I really doubt I woudl have those isses where i got my tC, cause I had blown shocks, I replaced them with Konis, and a week later, i started getting wierd sounds. They told me it was blown and I was like "That's impossible" he said he would show me, so he put it up on the rack for me, and i saw taht my bottom bolt had fallen off. He was like, Oh, OK, gave me my car back, and didn't even charge me for their time because they didn't really do anything.
I thanked him and he was like "Just remember us if you do ever need service"