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Old Jan 1, 2006 | 01:03 AM
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Default UPDATE: with dyno chart; my supercharger dyno

as soon as i fix my scanner i will post the dyno chart but i wanted to put my numbers up and see what you all thought.

Setup:

TRD supercharger
110 BPV
alphawerks header
stock s-pipe
2.5 inch exhaust
umnitza CF intake

the zpi pulley is on the way but wont be here till tuesday. overall i was inpressed with the numbers considering the simple upgrades i have. the zpi pulley should really put me up there.

now for the numbers:

pull 1; car was still cold numbers were 206 whp and 180 tq.
pull 2; after letting cool down for a few minutes the car pulled 211whp and 184tq
pull 3; also 211 hp and 180 tq.

211hp and 184tq is not bad if you ask me. even the guy dynoing was impressed that a scion could put out those numbers.

I dont know if it makes a big difference and i didnt notice till i went to drive home but the front defroster was on the whole time, i dont think that matters though.

anyway overall i was happy, and the guy who dynoed my car was very helpful. I have known him for sometime now so he gave me a few pointers to help me out. He told me to wrap the header with heat wrap cause it was producing very hot air that might help a little.

My next step is the pulley then a full tune, which im hoping to have done by april, so i will update with new numbers when i get a chance, base runs can get pretty expensive, hehe

well let me know what you think and i will hopefully put the graph up tomorrow.

thanks for reading and happy boosting


heres the dyno chart for everyone to see



ps. sorry for the huge picture
Old Jan 1, 2006 | 03:06 AM
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Nice numbers!
Old Jan 1, 2006 | 10:09 AM
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anyway overall i was happy, and the guy who dynoed my car was very helpful. I have known him for sometime now so he gave me a few pointers to help me out. He told me to wrap the header with heat wrap cause it was producing very hot air that might help a little.
My next step is the pulley then a full tune, which im hoping to have done by april, so i will update with new numbers when i get a chance, base runs can get pretty expensive, hehe

well let me know what you think and i will hopefully put the graph up tomorrow.

thanks for reading and happy boosting
and nobody paid attention when i did it. its definetly hot.

But i already planned it when i was picking which header to use. alphawerks would be a little too hard to wrap vs megan. alphas primaries are too close to each other and are longer. another option than wrapping it is a exhaust blanket, thermotec sells it too.
Old Jan 1, 2006 | 10:54 AM
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Did you dyno before with just the supercharher only? If so what was the difference? That way I know if you got good gains from the other parts. Good info though
Old Jan 1, 2006 | 03:27 PM
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Nice numbers, what kind of dyno was it done on?
Old Jan 1, 2006 | 06:04 PM
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i had everything on before i did the supercharger so i couldnt tell you how much gains i got from everything. I will admit the alphawerks header will be hard to wrap but it has a better design and stronger construction than the megan header which is why i originally chose it.

The dyno was done on a standard dynojet.
Old Jan 1, 2006 | 09:15 PM
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[quote="OutCrnrU"] I will admit the alphawerks header will be hard to wrap but it has a better design and stronger construction than the megan header which is why i originally chose it.[quote]

true but for 173 otd for megan, i dont mind it breaking. wrapping already decreases the life of it. but check out header blankets tho.

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Did you dyno before with just the supercharher only?
there were a few people that dynoed it already with sc, its at least 190+whp on dynojets. search on it, its been posted.
Old Jan 1, 2006 | 09:42 PM
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those are pretty good numbers. i think the s/c alone dynoed about 198 whp and 180 tq or sumthin like that. you can probably come to a conclusion that all of your mods added about 11 hp and 4 tq or so.
Old Jan 1, 2006 | 10:01 PM
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You can't really do that because every car is different. Just because some cars get 198whp w/ just a s/c doesn't men that outcrnru's car is identical. Only way to tell 100% would be to have a baseline run, but he had the mods before the s/c so that's not possible. Regardless, very nice numbers. Looking forward to see what the pulley and tune will bring you up to
Old Jan 1, 2006 | 10:46 PM
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Yeah I'm not impressed. You should be pushing closer to 230 whp.
Old Jan 1, 2006 | 10:53 PM
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Ya I agree with woodyear I thought it would have been closer to 230whp too. I was going to do the same thing sc, aw header, intake, ect... but not for only 211whp. Maybe if you could pull 14 flat in the 1/4, but not worth the money to me.
Old Jan 1, 2006 | 11:10 PM
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Invest in a Unichip and get some of that torque back. I hope that helps the S/C guys.
Old Jan 1, 2006 | 11:12 PM
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The only supercharger dyno that I've seen with nearly 230whp was running the zpi pulley.
Old Jan 1, 2006 | 11:14 PM
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I was thinking about the #'s being a little bit higher, but I think will a full exhuast and pulley will get you into the 230-240whp range. I still like the #'s though.
Old Jan 2, 2006 | 01:48 AM
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Originally Posted by BreakTheStatic
You can't really do that because every car is different. Just because some cars get 198whp w/ just a s/c doesn't men that outcrnru's car is identical. Only way to tell 100% would be to have a baseline run, but he had the mods before the s/c so that's not possible. Regardless, very nice numbers. Looking forward to see what the pulley and tune will bring you up to
my bad..i didnt mean exact numbers for number. jus a vauge idea of the numbers he could have expected if he had the s/c alone
Old Jan 2, 2006 | 02:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Woodyear
Yeah I'm not impressed. You should be pushing closer to 230 whp.
I think its funny that people expect ungodly numbers from certain mods. If increasing the boost by 2 psi makes 21whp, what would make you think a header and exhaust would give 20-25?? It infuriates me when people have such high expectations when they dont research what they are talking about. you also have to remember that the higher you get the harder it is to get more power, eg. its easier to go from 150whp to 160whp than it is to go from 200whp to 210whp.

I dont mind if other people want to live in this fantasy world with all the civic owners who think an exhaust gives you 20hp, but please try to be more realistic. and if your not impressed with my car thats fine, im not building it so you will go wow thats fast, or hey your car sucks, im building my car for me.

im glad to see there are a few people out there who know what they are talking about and appreciate what it takes to get what people are getting. Sorry for my rant im still hungover and get pushed over the edge easily. i will update shortly with the dyno chart
Old Jan 2, 2006 | 02:37 AM
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Dont worry about the haters, like me we still have only 139whp at our disposal...
Keep modding, and keep us updated.
Old Jan 2, 2006 | 02:48 AM
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Nice numbers.To bad the ecu cant be flashed easly like on the domestic cars.Toyota is leaving a LOT in the tune..I willing to bet there is 15~20 hp in the tune itself..Also if the car had the defrost on it means the a/c was on also..

Ive done some supercharger installs at work on tc's.
I cant say they impress me but then again ,my playtoy makes a lot more power(compairing apples and oranges)..But all of the owners i did them for were very happy with the kit and its output.

As far as power its making.Simple weather changes can effect dyno numbers.Even though dynojet "corrects: for temp,it still makes a difference.I can see 20~30 rwhp difference between a 90* day and a 40* day in my own car.Because the ecu sees high inlet temps and pulls timing.
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Some people should install the SC with the intake header and exaust and show us this 230 WHP. You guys need to realize that bolting on a set of mods with x HP, y HP and zHP does not equal x + y + z. As a matter of fact, it is possible to add two mods and LOSE hp due to the combination of the two.

Decent numbers on that dyno. About what I would expect realistically. I have been happier to see that the SC puts out more than originally claimed. It still isnt up there as much as I would have liked, but not too bad.
Old Jan 2, 2006 | 03:20 AM
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well you guys are right on the money with what your saying, and im glad other people out there realize the real deal.

Based on my mods and what people were seeing i was hoping for 210 and 180 and hey thats what i got so im happy. My tuner also said i need to upgrade the s-pipe and maybe bump the pipe up to 3". He said i should let the exhaust out as fast as possible. I trust him but 3" just sounds really big to me, what you guys think? Anyway keep the comments coming and thanks for all your input.



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