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Old Nov 27, 2009 | 08:11 PM
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What is are max Hp that are stock block can handle on 93 octane gas, and if it were on VP C16 fuel what would the max hp be then. Here is a thread from Tampa racing on are car, were a local tuner talks about how much he thinks are stock blocks can handle. I wanted to get your in put on this subject, and what this tuner says about are block.


http://www.tamparacing.com/forums/in...289ft-lbs.html

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i would not surpass 350whp if u want the motor to last a decent amount of time. ElevationTC had 363whp and 340wtq and his motor blew on the track. after couple months.
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more than 350hp and 12psi is the danger zone

elevation blew his stock motor at like 352whp and 14psi i believe
Old Nov 27, 2009 | 08:29 PM
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i would not surpass 350whp if u want the motor to last a decent amount of time. ElevationTC had 363whp and 340wtq and his motor blew on the track. after couple months.

Thats what I was thinking, around 350 whp at the wheel, in the thread on tampa racing the tuner says are stock engine can handle 550 at the wheel on vp c16.
Old Nov 27, 2009 | 08:43 PM
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yeah it can handle 350 but not for a long time.. but doesnt mean you can like tune it to 340 just coz its not yet the threshold. IMO going over 320hp is already putting good stress on the motor that is designed to run 140-150 whp.. I mean it can handle the power but the motor will give up anytime prematurely with repeated abuse
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what do you think max power you could get of a stock block if your running vp c16 fuel.
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should be just about the same
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Originally Posted by turbonetics_tc
Thats what I was thinking, around 350 whp at the wheel, in the thread on tampa racing the tuner says are stock engine can handle 550 at the wheel on vp c16.

thats the dumbest thing i ever heard... our rods are ____ty as hell.. nobody has made 550wheel stock motor.
Old Nov 27, 2009 | 11:27 PM
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Just posted!
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my factory motor lasted a month at 300 whp before all four piston broke apart
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Originally Posted by ElevationTC
Just posted!

thanks mike for clearing up that info on tampa racing.
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wait.. all ur pistons broke at 300whp? ur tune must have been pretty ____ty or something else was wrong.
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Originally Posted by turbonetics_tc
thanks mike for clearing up that info on tampa racing.
Are you still on my tune? If so when u stoppin by for that retune bro?
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Originally Posted by ElevationTC
Are you still on my tune? If so when u stoppin by for that retune bro?

yep still on your tune, if I get a chance this month coming up ill let you know.
Old Nov 27, 2009 | 11:46 PM
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Is that the guy who tuned you?

You should post in there, how i had to retune you. try and get your money back!
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Originally Posted by ElevationTC
Is that the guy who tuned you?

You should post in there, how i had to retune you. try and get your money back!

That was the guy that tuned me first, and that was my dyno to. I tryed to get some money back, but he never got back to me. I just cant be live he tuned my car were throttle potions sensor wire was missed up.
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Originally Posted by turbonetics_tc
That was the guy that tuned me first, and that was my dyno to. I tryed to get some money back, but he never got back to me. I just cant be live he tuned my car were throttle potions sensor wire was missed up.

This is the same guy who said!

"'im sure the stock pistons/rods can hold more than 350whp with the right setup and VP C16 fuel. The Honda's have made upwards of 550whp on VP C16 with stock pistons/rods. The 2AZ-FE block itself is STRONG. I've personally seen 60lbs run through the stock block with pistons, rods, billet mains, billet main girdle, etc."
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^ wow fail
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lol pretty exaggerated imagination
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I have a hunch, and it's not founded by anything really, that the motor can handle 400 whp daily driver if not beat on constantly. If every now and then, you hit the track with street tires but don't clutch dump at every light, it may last a while. The main reason Elevation blew his motor was because of slicks. 2 step launch on a twin disk with 364 hp with no tire spin = bent rod. THEN, *LOL* do a burnout with said setup AND the bent rod = holes in the block.

Overall, the main cause for catastrophic failure on his car was the slicks and hard abuse but someone has to test the limits right Mike? I wouldn't recommend going 400 whp on a stock block but I do think it is do-able.

P.S. Saw the blown motor in person, definitely bent a rod hehe.



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