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Old Jan 20, 2006 | 03:52 AM
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Originally Posted by njdan69
I disagree with the greddy mani being sexy. Look at the runners on that thing none of them are the same length so the flow would be wierd and probably cost a few horses. But thats just my opinion.
much better than a log manifold...
Old Jan 20, 2006 | 04:42 AM
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400hp...all i hear is wheels spinning....and spinning...and still spinning...whats the deal with that lsd coming out? Also, any kit getting that much power to the wheels I wonder how they are avoiding the axles from snapping...
Old Jan 20, 2006 | 04:49 AM
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if you have that much power, your going to have to increase your grip by increasing wheel width
Old Jan 20, 2006 | 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Revilo
Turbonetics = 244whp - - - -$5,595 - - - 8psi
ZPI Stage 0 = 230whp - - - $2,670 - - - 6 psi
ZPI Stage 1 = 300 - - - - - -$4,500 - - - 9 - 10psi
Dezod = 244whp - - - - - - - $3,975* - - - 8.5psi

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Your Turbonetics pricing seems a bit off. There are two vendors selling the kit for $4285 on this board.
Old Jan 20, 2006 | 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by MIAPLAYA
Originally Posted by Revilo
Turbonetics = 244whp - - - -$5,595 - - - 8psi
ZPI Stage 0 = 230whp - - - $2,670 - - - 6 psi
ZPI Stage 1 = 300 - - - - - -$4,500 - - - 9 - 10psi
Dezod = 244whp - - - - - - - $3,975* - - - 8.5psi

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Your Turbonetics pricing seems a bit off. There are two vendors selling the kit for $4285 on this board.
the zpi satge 1 can be found for $4,000

and the dezod kit is 244whp with 15% load and 4% retarded ignition...
Old Jan 20, 2006 | 07:44 AM
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[quote="MIAPLAYA"]
Originally Posted by TimmyT
Bluetooth access to the EMS to check real time correction factors, alter them, or upload an entirely new map via your PDA or laptop-

WOW, is this for real. Bluetooth on the Unichip. this is a big plus for turbonetic.
Old Jan 20, 2006 | 09:21 AM
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The peope on this board rock. That unichip sounds awsome, i'll have to do more research but i'm leaning twards turbonetics.
Old Jan 20, 2006 | 11:13 AM
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So with the Turbonetics you could probably tune it with say a cell phone??
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Originally Posted by atodak
So with the Turbonetics you could probably tune it with say a cell phone??
Not sure how a cell phone would work but a PDA or laptop absolutely...I don't know if a cell phone has been tried..
Old Jan 20, 2006 | 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Revilo
Turbonetics = 244whp - - - -$5,595 - - - 8psi
ZPI Stage 0 = 230whp - - - $2,670 - - - 6 psi
ZPI Stage 1 = 300 - - - - - -$4,500 - - - 9 - 10psi
Dezod = 244whp - - - - - - - $3,975* - - - 8.5psi

*Without Options
Our kit provides all of the necessary goods to get the ball rolling. A PnP harness for the E-Manage is more through ZPI, last time I checked. Other than that, we offer the GReddy Pressure sensor to all for a more accurate tune, which will be up to 11 PSI.

Our kit, with respect to the power, is a little off. On 8.5 PSI we DID put down 244whp & 255wtq. This was acheived with a Random Tech cat on the downpipe, a recirculated dump tube, 4 degrees of retarded timing and 15% load on the DynoMite dyno. This vastly under states our numbers. (kind of a worst case scenario) So this does not put us on an equal platform as the rest of the manufacturers.

Same exact conditions, minus the Random Tech cat, still recirculated dump, same dyno, same amount of retarded timing, same load we put down 5whp more.

Our kit with 11 PSI, catless downpipe, still recirculated dump, same dyno, same amount of timing retarded, same load put down 271whp & 292wtq.

FYI.
Old Jan 20, 2006 | 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by paul_dezod
Originally Posted by Revilo
Turbonetics = 244whp - - - -$5,595 - - - 8psi
ZPI Stage 0 = 230whp - - - $2,670 - - - 6 psi
ZPI Stage 1 = 300 - - - - - -$4,500 - - - 9 - 10psi
Dezod = 244whp - - - - - - - $3,975* - - - 8.5psi

*Without Options
Our kit provides all of the necessary goods to get the ball rolling. A PnP harness for the E-Manage is more through ZPI, last time I checked. Other than that, we offer the GReddy Pressure sensor to all for a more accurate tune, which will be up to 11 PSI.

Our kit, with respect to the power, is a little off. On 8.5 PSI we DID put down 244whp & 255wtq. This was acheived with a Random Tech cat on the downpipe, a recirculated dump tube, 4 degrees of retarded timing and 15% load on the DynoMite dyno. This vastly under states our numbers. (kind of a worst case scenario) So this does not put us on an equal platform as the rest of the manufacturers.

Same exact conditions, minus the Random Tech cat, still recirculated dump, same dyno, same amount of retarded timing, same load we put down 5whp more.

Our kit with 11 PSI, catless downpipe, still recirculated dump, same dyno, same amount of timing retarded, same load put down 271whp & 292wtq.

FYI.
Maybe its time for a turbo kit shootout :D
Old Jan 21, 2006 | 12:25 AM
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Sounds exactly like what dezod did. Hmmmm
Old Jan 21, 2006 | 01:50 AM
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So many turbo kit choices... Sound Performance and Alpine Developments will be joining the list...

Choices...Choices...
Old Jan 21, 2006 | 02:01 AM
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hopefully the damn prices will fall
Old Jan 21, 2006 | 02:02 AM
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^ I agree, when companies compete...you win.
Old Jan 21, 2006 | 02:16 AM
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Originally Posted by MIAPLAYA
Maybe its time for a turbo kit shootout :D
We're always down for a friendly competition. Just tells us when and where and how many cars we're allowed to bring.

This board needs the :hammer: smiley. ==>
Old Jan 21, 2006 | 03:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Revilo
Turbonetics = 244whp - - - -$5,595 - - - 8psi
ZPI Stage 0 = 230whp - - - $2,670 - - - 6 psi
ZPI Stage 1 = 300 - - - - - -$4,500 - - - 9 - 10psi
Dezod = 244whp - - - - - - - $3,975* - - - 8.5psi

*Without Options
Ok, prices and whp may vary. (the prices and whp i got them for their website)

It was only to get an idea.

Sorry if someone was in disagreement with my research. I apologize.
Old Jan 21, 2006 | 04:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Revilo
Originally Posted by Revilo
Turbonetics = 244whp - - - -$5,595 - - - 8psi
ZPI Stage 0 = 230whp - - - $2,670 - - - 6 psi
ZPI Stage 1 = 300 - - - - - -$4,500 - - - 9 - 10psi
Dezod = 244whp - - - - - - - $3,975* - - - 8.5psi

*Without Options
Ok, prices and whp may vary. (the prices and whp i got them for their website)

It was only to get an idea.

Sorry if someone was in disagreement with my research. I apologize.
It's all good bro. Typically companies post an MSRP for a kit but a vendor can usually get you a better deal..
Old Jan 21, 2006 | 04:27 AM
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Originally Posted by nester
Originally Posted by MIAPLAYA
Maybe its time for a turbo kit shootout :D
We're always down for a friendly competition. Just tells us when and where and how many cars we're allowed to bring.

This board needs the :hammer: smiley. ==>
I'll talk to Turbonetics about it and see what they think...we'd need to see if there is a good third party mag that could cover it.
Old Jan 21, 2006 | 03:49 PM
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Sounds badass.



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