No bass boost here, in fact my amps don't even have it. However, I do use an Audio Control EPICenter, which is a dedicated bass processor, but it functions differently than "bass boost" and isn't intended to take the place of such. I've also got 9th order subsonic filtering below ~30Hz, cascaded from both the EPICenter and an Audio Control ESP-2 imaging/soundstaging processor.

I don't care for 'bass boost', but there's a lot of music where the low end needs to be enhanced, so it's nice to be able to do it the right way, w/o 'bass boost'.

 

EQing > bass boost

it really sounds like you either need to do some tuning with the EQ or your subs just plain old don't play certain music very well.

 

jason he doesn't know anything he's an audiobahn lover lol

 

hahahaha. Audiobling FTMFW!!!!

 

CHRROMMMEEE WWAAAHHHHHHHTTTT?

 

1. your a troll. how sad is it that you actually spent the time to go back and find that post. are u that obsessed with me??? aka. some personality on an online scion forum.... cool.

2. for the 3rd time for all you ego-maniac wannabee tuner kids.... I AM NOT ASKING WHAT BASS BOOST IS NOR WHETHER OR NOT I SHOULD USE IT. I'M ASKING IF OTHER PEOPLE USE IT AND WHAT KIND OF EXPERIENCES/COMMENTS THEY HAVE ABOUT IT. EG. IF YOU'VE EVER BLOWN AN AMP RUNNING BASS BOOST OR JUST HAD REAL BAD DISTORTION, I'D LIKE TO KNOW. IF YOU'VE HAD SUCCESS LISTENING TO A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT MUSIC WITH THE BASS BOOST SET TO A REASONABLE (AKA. LOW) LEVEL... I'D LIKE TO KNOW. IF YOU HAD ONE BRAND OF AMP THAT BASS BOOST WORKED WELL ON, AND ANOTHER THAT SOUNDED LIKE CRAP....I'D LIKE TO KNOW.

3. you basically repeated what i said, ie. "I have my bass boost off and adjust the subwoofer level on the head unit"... and "rap is supposed to have heavier/louder bass levels"

you lose troll. now get a life and learn something about autos.

 

THANKS FOR CLARIFYING, I HOPE YOU HAVE A NICE DAY.

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I was going to to just leave it at that, but on second thought, because I find you so amusing, it would be a shame to pass up the opportunity to respond fully to your points.

1. You really are one of my favorite characters on these boards. You're the biggest bozo on here since that one xB owner who was constantly on the tC forums saying that tCs were garbage. Nearly everything you post puts a smile on my face. Funny stuff. Your post that "you don't ask questions" was a bold claim, and one that stuck in my head. It was in a thread I keep a close eye on, so I knew right where to find it. So yes, you are a personality on here... but mostly in a "comical villain" sort of way. Like Dark Helmet form Spaceballs or something.

2. I'm older than you. I notice that your favorite slam is calling people "kids". Why don't you put your age in your profile so you can always be holding that over the 25-and-under users without even having to mention it. I'm sure they will be pretty impressed, I know I am.

I didn't explain what BB was nor tell you how to use it. I said that I don't use it and explain how I do go about controlling my bass and how I deal with varying amounts of bass in different recordings. I guess you could call that my "EXPERIENCES/COMMENTS I HAVE ABOUT IT".

3. Then I guess I helped confirm what you were thinking, thus giving you more information to use in your decision-making process. You're welcome!

Speaking of trolls, I don't really understand why you are on this board, since everyone on it except for you is a stupid wannabe teenager from a one-horse town who doesn't know anything. Seems like we have nothing to offer you, so why do you bother?

 

Thanks for the clarification. As per your original post, I have tried using a boost setting on a Power Acoustik amp with Kenwoods, and a Rockford Fosgate amp with Rockford speakers. Both resulted in significant distortion at moderate to high volumes, and were not balanced with the rest of the system components. I have not damaged a subwoofer, but I did damage an amp, was over 10 years ago so I don't remember the model, it was a non-name brand. With the gain up and boost on it overheated one of the FETs and blew it into three pieces, the only thing left on the board was the solder leads.

 

I don't use bass boost, unless I'm trying to get more SPL for a meter.

Most bass boosts have a specific center frequency and it's acting as a PEQ at that point. On ours, it's 45Hz, my car peaks at like 50Hz, so if I just want it loud, it definitely helps.

As for using bass boost for different styles of music, I just build a sub stage that offers a fairly flat frequency response. That way most music which is played through it will end up coming out as it was meant to sound. I really don't believe in changing the experience the artist/engineer intended to give(unless it's a recording clipped all to hell, but that's another discussion entirely and dealing mostly with horrid tweeter hiss).

So, short answer, no, never when I'm listening to music because I prefer designing a stereo that doesn't require constant fiddling depending on what I want to listen to. Doesn't that kind of kill the experience of listening to music? Oh, I'm going to listen to some jazz, time to change everything to make jazz sound good. Time for some rock, whoops, need to change everything again. I find it a lot more enjoyable to put in whatever CD I want to listen to and have it sound good. Maybe occasionally turning the actual level for the subwoofer up or down depending on how I'm feeling(angry driving needs more bass), but that is the full spectrum of bass, not just one frequency.

 

boy, you really like to hear yourself talk don't you? I bet you are that guy who's always calling up the Liberal Talk Radio program too, right?? Get over yourself loser.

 

x2. good post. my amp has a bass boost center frequency which is pretty nice, allows me to adjust the boosted frequency.

I agree though, i don't like to boost the bass over the level that the artist designed it to be played at. But then again, on Bob Dylan or Grateful dead or classic rock songs, where the bass levels are recorded way below the mids and highs, you can really use a bump in the low frequencies sometimes. but then they'll be one song on the album that has a nice bass line, and it gets way too boomy and distorted because you have the bass boost up for the other songs.

 

Yeah, it's definitely something completely different when the recording equipment at the time couldn't properly record the levels of the bass track. That's where the EPICenter really comes in though by "rebuilding" the bass track based on the levels of harmonics in the recordings.

 

its times like this that make me happy i brought my laptop to class.. lol :D

whats epicenter?

 

that is ridiculous. i just realized how much MORE time i could have wasted in college if i'd just gotten a laptop.....

 

http://www.mobileaudiocontrol.com/pr...oduct_Id=14165

Bass restoration processor.

Examines second and third order harmonics(i believe) to bring the bass levels back up.

 

it help say when you have subs and you want to hear some oldies but no bass comes out of oldies right but with the epicenter it coverts bass into the song it is a nice little gadget

www.audiocontrol.com

 

LOL

 

thanks guys for the info about epicenter. it looks pretty cool.

 

Thought I'd add some input, having owned and used one (the original model) for about 18 years now.

The EPICenter "Bass restoration processor" examines the music you're playing, and finds 2nd harmonics, where the fundamental note is missing. This isn't only the case for older recordings, but is often found in MP3 files which are compressed in size during conversion (rip), such that some of the low fundamental notes may have been discarded. The EPICenter then delays the original signal, and recreates the fundamental note from the 2nd harmonic that's present, mixes the fundamental back into the delayed signal, and sends it on it's way to your amp (or next processor in your signal chain).

It has a rotary control that varies how "agressive" it functions, and it's not difficult to set too far, such that it produces "artificial" bass that's both lower in frequency and higher in amplitude than the artist/engineer intended. You can also easily destroy a pair of subs by cranking it too far, especially when the volume is up, even though it also contains a 6th order subsonic filter.

Used in moderation it's a great fix for both old recordings and compressed MP3 files, and enables you to get a flat system response from such sources, which no BB or even single band, narrow-Q PEQ will adequately resolve.

I agree with what Chris stated about BB, people are much better off if they just build a system that plays all music accurately, w/o any BB required.

 

did you say i'm running audio"bling"?

NO WAY IN HELL WOULD I EVER CONSIDER BUYING THOSE...

i may only be 18 and have rockford fos"breaks" cause i didn't read up on buyin good **** before i spent my money, but i DEFINATELY do not run those pieces of ____...