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Old Mar 29, 2006 | 02:52 PM
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I don't mind at all. I'll put something together for you tonight.

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Did you have a chance to throw together some plans for this? I am very interested still in building this box if it works as well as im being told. The other possible option is two 8" JL Audio 8w04's. I hear they make quite a lot of sound for the very low wattage requirement....similar to the EU's.
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8w0's are awesome speakers.

I have a pair of the S4's sitting at home.
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Dan...

I don't mind at all. I'll put something together for you tonight.

Pete
Did you have a chance to throw together some plans for this? I am very interested still in building this box if it works as well as im being told. The other possible option is two 8" JL Audio 8w04's. I hear they make quite a lot of sound for the very low wattage requirement....similar to the EU's.
Not yet... I've been really busy this week. I should get around to it in the next few days.

One thing you (or anyone for that matter) should consider is the area of this box. I have to recalculate but it's around .495 cubic feet which is just a little under ideal for the 2 Eu-700s in a sealed box.

I did a little research on the JL 8w04's... The recommended net internal volume for a sealed enclosure with one speaker is .375 cubic feet and the displacement of the speaker is .023 cubic feet. So gross voulme would have to be .398 cubic feet. Which would work if you mount a single 8w04. For two you just don't have enough volume and you'll more than likely lose more than you will gain. Mounting depth for the 8w04 is 4.06" and my sub box is right at 4" so you'd have to create a 1/2" mounting ring to keep the magnet off of the floor of the box.

Pete

ps... FYI... the area of two 6.5" subs are equal to one 9" sub.
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My brother just bought a small single cab mazda truck over the weekend and wants some bass but 12's will be to tight back there. Would you recomend centering two eu-700's behind the seat in a small sealed box.
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Originally Posted by OneLiterPeter
One thing you (or anyone for that matter) should consider is the area of this box. I have to recalculate but it's around .495 cubic feet which is just a little under ideal for the 2 Eu-700s in a sealed box.

I did a little research on the JL 8w04's... The recommended net internal volume for a sealed enclosure with one speaker is .375 cubic feet and the displacement of the speaker is .023 cubic feet. So gross voulme would have to be .398 cubic feet. Which would work if you mount a single 8w04. For two you just don't have enough volume and you'll more than likely lose more than you will gain. Mounting depth for the 8w04 is 4.06" and my sub box is right at 4" so you'd have to create a 1/2" mounting ring to keep the magnet off of the floor of the box.

Pete

ps... FYI... the area of two 6.5" subs are equal to one 9" sub.
Thanks for the info Pete, I hadnt looked at the real specs yet on the 8w04's, but that sounds about right. The price of 1 JL is $90 where two EU's are $100 so i think it will be worth the 10 bucks anyways.
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One thing you (or anyone for that matter) should consider is the area of this box. I have to recalculate but it's around .495 cubic feet which is just a little under ideal for the 2 Eu-700s in a sealed box.

I did a little research on the JL 8w04's... The recommended net internal volume for a sealed enclosure with one speaker is .375 cubic feet and the displacement of the speaker is .023 cubic feet. So gross voulme would have to be .398 cubic feet. Which would work if you mount a single 8w04. For two you just don't have enough volume and you'll more than likely lose more than you will gain. Mounting depth for the 8w04 is 4.06" and my sub box is right at 4" so you'd have to create a 1/2" mounting ring to keep the magnet off of the floor of the box.

Pete

ps... FYI... the area of two 6.5" subs are equal to one 9" sub.
Thanks for the info Pete, I hadnt looked at the real specs yet on the 8w04's, but that sounds about right. The price of 1 JL is $90 where two EU's are $100 so i think it will be worth the 10 bucks anyways.
Dude i think you can actually buy them for $50 bucks a piece @ there website.
check it out.
http://www.edesignaudio.com/product....atures&cur=USD
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Originally Posted by SO-CAL_TC
My brother just bought a small single cab mazda truck over the weekend and wants some bass but 12's will be to tight back there. Would you recomend centering two eu-700's behind the seat in a small sealed box.

SO-CAL...

I don't see why they wouldn't work. Sounds like the perfect application to me. ;)

Just make sure that the volume of the box is .5 cubic inches if he's going with a sealed enclosure. Ported box will be bigger and the port needs to be tuned to the spec's on ED's web site.
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Originally Posted by DanPorges
Originally Posted by OneLiterPeter
One thing you (or anyone for that matter) should consider is the area of this box. I have to recalculate but it's around .495 cubic feet which is just a little under ideal for the 2 Eu-700s in a sealed box.

I did a little research on the JL 8w04's... The recommended net internal volume for a sealed enclosure with one speaker is .375 cubic feet and the displacement of the speaker is .023 cubic feet. So gross voulme would have to be .398 cubic feet. Which would work if you mount a single 8w04. For two you just don't have enough volume and you'll more than likely lose more than you will gain. Mounting depth for the 8w04 is 4.06" and my sub box is right at 4" so you'd have to create a 1/2" mounting ring to keep the magnet off of the floor of the box.

Pete

ps... FYI... the area of two 6.5" subs are equal to one 9" sub.
Thanks for the info Pete, I hadnt looked at the real specs yet on the 8w04's, but that sounds about right. The price of 1 JL is $90 where two EU's are $100 so i think it will be worth the 10 bucks anyways.
You're welcome.

Yep... as far as the speakers themselve go... it's really all about pushing sound waves through air and bigger isn't necessarily better if you can get something with a good design.
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Originally Posted by OneLiterPeter
Originally Posted by SO-CAL_TC
My brother just bought a small single cab mazda truck over the weekend and wants some bass but 12's will be to tight back there. Would you recomend centering two eu-700's behind the seat in a small sealed box.

SO-CAL...

I don't see why they wouldn't work. Sounds like the perfect application to me. ;)

Just make sure that the volume of the box is .5 cubic inches if he's going with a sealed enclosure. Ported box will be bigger and the port needs to be tuned to the spec's on ED's web site.
had to give you crap about this.... cubic inches.....HAH
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had to give you crap about this.... cubic inches.....HAH
Old Mar 29, 2006 | 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by OneLiterPeter
Originally Posted by SO-CAL_TC
My brother just bought a small single cab mazda truck over the weekend and wants some bass but 12's will be to tight back there. Would you recomend centering two eu-700's behind the seat in a small sealed box.

SO-CAL...

I don't see why they wouldn't work. Sounds like the perfect application to me. ;)

Just make sure that the volume of the box is .5 cubic inches if he's going with a sealed enclosure. Ported box will be bigger and the port needs to be tuned to the spec's on ED's web site.
cool thank you.
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is it possible to build a box like peters on e-designs site?
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^^^ which box??? they've got a few...
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one that would sit flush in the cargo area like Peters, that I can just fit in and hide.
Old Mar 30, 2006 | 07:18 PM
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oh, I'd give chris (mandos) a holler either on here or give him a call @ eD... he could figure out how much it would cost you to build, cover, and ship...
Old Mar 30, 2006 | 07:24 PM
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Peter was going to get me specs as well...then it will probably appear on the tC page
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does e-designs make good rears? or are they not even worth replacing? I was gonna go with the eDi 6500s Components, the eu-700s, my 2 kicker amps (theyre both 250, don't have the names off hand), and then I was looking for some rears and a new HU (looking for one with the integrated ipod tech, I have the alpine one now, works nice but I want a new HU so I may go with alpine again). Main problems gonna be finding someone to install them.. heh
Old Mar 30, 2006 | 07:37 PM
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Rear speakers is a completely personal preference kind of thing.

I hate 'em

If you wanted something back there, my suggestion would be a pair of 600 mids only. Saves you some $$$ since the speakers are mostly going to be faded forward anyway.
Old Mar 31, 2006 | 01:25 AM
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OK...

I did a quick set of prints. PM me with an email and I'll send them to whomever wants a copy. Or... Chris... you can host it if you want.

Pete
Old Mar 31, 2006 | 11:16 AM
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*soft chant* Host It.... Host It....Host It..



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