I'd rather pretend it's AWD.

 

That couldn't be it. We have the TRD LSD available already.

 

Front looks iight but pause it on those tails and try not to vomit.

 

AWD won't exactly be a good thing knowing what we know about the car. If it's ~180HP and AWD, that gives it roughly 140-145WHP, and it would weigh around 3300-3500 lbs. So it will have the same power output as the current tC, a lot more weight, and a much higher price tag.

 

cant wait .... so where would i go to see the first pics of the car tomorrow?

 

Just noticed no more round fuel door.

 

Ha... probably check in right here. If they pop up on the internet, I'm sure it'll take all of about 30 seconds for someone to get them here.

 

As soon as we have solid info, specs, and details, I'm going to start putting it in a new thread here:

https://www.scionlife.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=184134

Actually I may start adding bits and pieces from this thread. The new one is locked at the moment - but will be opened as soon as we can get some good stuff into it.

 

Just to add a little more...

The weight difference between the Matrix FWD and AWD, is around 300lbs. Considering the tC is already at the 2900 lb mark, and is getting bigger wheels, brakes, 6-speed, bigger motor, and more features...it would really tip the scales if it was AWD.

 

In the sneak peak video, the guy mentioned it would have more MPG. Wouldn't AWD decrease the MPG by 2-4 MPG?

Im just throwing my .02 out there.

 

Decrease from what though? We don't know what the engine will get with or without AWD. But I think his point is that no matter what drivetrain is in there, it will get better mileage than the current generation.

 

You forgot to add that all AWD's are not created equal. If the AWD system isn't symmetrical then there is no point of AWD, it might as well be RWD or FWD.

 

I'm a believer now. 6 speed mt, +hp, +tq. I wont be buying one but it definitely puts scion in a more performance oriented category.

 

They didn't show the a-pillar and c-pillar curves... Which I don't like very much. The A-Pillar curve looks xB2-ish and the C-Pillar curve is sharper as well...

Told you the tails look bad... I don't like them at all.

 

I've been trying to ignore them so far... hoping I find a way to like them. I would still have to see an entire rear shot to decide. The teaser video was very obscure.

 

I'm excited to drive this. I'll go from there..

 

I hope this tc looks good, and doesnt weigh too much more, that would be sad. fingers crossed for AWD.

 

I was using Toyotas own AWD system as an example. Which is essentially a FWD system until the front wheels lose traction completely, it's a pretty crappy system

 

My guess is the released video is some big April Fool's joke... actually, I sure hope it is. Those tails look horrible.

 

agreed...if this scion was magically married with an AWD system, it would be crappy.

I like the tails but hate the slope of the rear.

I want the rims. Maybe the surprise might be a little force induction.