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Old Sep 8, 2006 | 07:27 AM
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yea it doesn;t matter wat car u have, don;t do crazy stuff if you can't drive. 2 of my close friends past away a year ago in a car accident.

They were driving a Ferrari and took a hard turn and crashed into a tree. It doesn;t matter what you drive its how u drive.


If an XA is pushing 140-150 hp, with a good driver it can def. hang or even beat a tC. They weight wat 2300-2400 Punds thas 500 less than the tC. Certainly possible. But if your gonna spend 3-4 K to get 40 HP, Jus buy a tC
Old Sep 8, 2006 | 07:33 AM
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@ 140-150hp, not even a contest, tC left at the gate. And when did wheels and a pulley, intake, header, and exhaust add up to $3-4k. Lightweight wheels and pulley = 10lb for every 1 off of the wheels(if you get wheels that are 1# lighter you just lost 40#), and according to Perrin their lightweight pulley is = taking 100lb off the car, add that to the 15-20hp from the i/h/e you got yourself a beat tC.
Old Sep 8, 2006 | 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by ddsboi
yea it doesn;t matter wat car u have, don;t do crazy stuff if you can't drive. 2 of my close friends past away a year ago in a car accident.

They were driving a Ferrari and took a hard turn and crashed into a tree. It doesn;t matter what you drive its how u drive.


If an XA is pushing 140-150 hp, with a good driver it can def. hang or even beat a tC. They weight wat 2300-2400 Punds thas 500 less than the tC. Certainly possible. But if your gonna spend 3-4 K to get 40 HP, Jus buy a tC
I remember that...Those kids should not have been driving that car.
Old Sep 8, 2006 | 08:23 AM
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yea , it belonged to my friends Uncle. He was house sitting, took it for a spin with another friend of mine, hit a tree and it caught on fire and they couldn;t get out. Always think of your family and friends before you do crazy stuff, cuz it takes a toll on them. I've seen it first hand.

But yea enough of this sad stuff, Hopefully it get claimed as a "total", cu the car wont ever be the same
Old Sep 8, 2006 | 08:25 AM
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yea , it belonged to my friends Uncle. He was house sitting, took it for a spin with another friend of mine, hit a tree and it caught on fire and they couldn;t get out. Always think of your family and friends before you do crazy stuff, cuz it takes a toll on them. I've seen it first hand.

But yea enough of this sad stuff, Hopefully it get claimed as a "total", cu the car wont ever be the same


And maybe u shuld do it to ur xA and roll against a tC. Numbers are just Numbers.
Old Sep 8, 2006 | 09:27 AM
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Im pretty sure the subframe was messed up, I looked at it today at the towing place, so im just praying that its totaled. :/ And yeah im shocked im not like dead / in the hospital, it would have been so much worse. Pretty much I had the best out of a horrible situation.
Old Sep 8, 2006 | 01:36 PM
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good luck with everything!!..i hate dealing with all the In and out with the insurance company....have fun with that...
Old Sep 8, 2006 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by ddsboi
yea , it belonged to my friends Uncle. He was house sitting, took it for a spin with another friend of mine, hit a tree and it caught on fire and they couldn;t get out. Always think of your family and friends before you do crazy stuff, cuz it takes a toll on them. I've seen it first hand.

But yea enough of this sad stuff, Hopefully it get claimed as a "total", cu the car wont ever be the same


And maybe u shuld do it to ur xA and roll against a tC. Numbers are just Numbers.
I want to, dear god I want to. I really do hate spitting theory. I wanna show actual facts.
Old Sep 8, 2006 | 02:35 PM
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I wish I had the to do it!
Old Sep 8, 2006 | 02:36 PM
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I am also 19 soon to be 20 and to this date have never been involved in a single auto accident. My theory is that people jump into driving certain levels of cars too quickly, and get in over their head. If you start out with a slow car, and gradually work your way up to faster cars, you'll have the experience and knowledge to safely operate that vehilce. I'm not saying this explains why all teenages wrecks happen, lol, cuz lets just face it, many teens drive like crap, zig zagging thru traffic, speeding, and over all wrecklessness. Driver's ED is too easy, and not enough in depth, with very little actual driving, and no Emergency driving manuvers or testing of the limits! ( as someone else pointed out ealier).
Old Sep 8, 2006 | 02:38 PM
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dam dude mad suck.s

glad your ok.

taking turns on canyon roads not the greatest idea, but you should know the limits of your car when you do so. Suspension helps but youll max out eventually.

Looks totaled.
Old Sep 8, 2006 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by rivas_203
what the hell is a subframe??? Ive heard of the unibody but other than that no compact, or subcompact car has a frame, the support bumper doesnt look like it was hit to bad, the sensors for the airbags are on the support bumper, no recall you just didnt hit it in the right place.
your sub frame is under your engine and holds various compenents of your suspension together. it also provides a place to bolt on your power steering and other stuff.
no your power steering pump is bolted directly on to your engine, your rack and pinion for the steering is on the cross member under the engine, its not a SUBFRAME you idiot no such thing, if you go to a dealer asking to replace the sub frame they will look at like your an idiot its the cross member
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Old Sep 8, 2006 | 06:19 PM
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Hmm quick google of subframe....

Definition: The lower frame rails and structural members that comprise the lower elements of a unibody. Steering and suspension components may be attached directly to the subframe, or to a "cradle" or "crossmember" that bolts to the subframe.
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Originally Posted by trialsindude
Hmm quick google of subframe....

Definition: The lower frame rails and structural members that comprise the lower elements of a unibody. Steering and suspension components may be attached directly to the subframe, or to a "cradle" or "crossmember" that bolts to the subframe.
Old Sep 8, 2006 | 06:24 PM
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last I checked we don't have unibody cars....but maybe I'm wrong.
Old Sep 8, 2006 | 10:01 PM
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They are unibody's ...
Old Sep 8, 2006 | 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by xSTANDxSTRONGx
last I checked we don't have unibody cars....but maybe I'm wrong.
Old Sep 8, 2006 | 10:50 PM
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yes most new cars are unibody. oh and rrimportracer, crossmember, cradle, subframe = same thing. calm down okay?
Old Sep 8, 2006 | 11:03 PM
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I thought it was most old cars were unibody, Chevelle, Camaro, GTO...
Old Sep 8, 2006 | 11:09 PM
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naw, im pretty sure those were frame type. but like you said, I might be wrong.



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