fears about the tC.....
I don't think the Potenza tires on the tC are the best but definitely not "god-awful". I would not expect Scion to put on $800-$1000 tires since this car is supposed to be affordable NOT luxury. LOL
Kevin
Kevin
Originally Posted by cypher50
Originally Posted by neneago
I'm thinking that everyone will eventually have one. Like the Honda civic. Boring after a while. My sunroof got cracked when I lived in Illinois. It was about 1/3 the size of the tC. It was very expensive to fix. I can't even imagine how much it will cost on the tC
People, the Civic has been around for decades and has been a popular tuner for almost two decades...I don't think you are going to have to worry about the tC hitting critical mass with the mainstream crowd for a very long time. Even if it is massively popular in the import crowd, I doubt sales for the tC will top 100,000.
Originally Posted by phoebe
That the car will come with those god-awful, dangerous crappy Potenza RE92 tires -- requiring an immediate change at an additional expense expense of $500 - $800)
(Or more if you're a performance fanatic). Less of a 'bargain' then...
(Or more if you're a performance fanatic). Less of a 'bargain' then...
Originally Posted by cypher50
Originally Posted by neneago
I'm thinking that everyone will eventually have one. Like the Honda civic. Boring after a while. My sunroof got cracked when I lived in Illinois. It was about 1/3 the size of the tC. It was very expensive to fix. I can't even imagine how much it will cost on the tC
People, the Civic has been around for decades and has been a popular tuner for almost two decades...I don't think you are going to have to worry about the tC hitting critical mass with the mainstream crowd for a very long time. Even if it is massively popular in the import crowd, I doubt sales for the tC will top 100,000.
Originally Posted by erc
Originally Posted by cypher50
Originally Posted by neneago
I'm thinking that everyone will eventually have one. Like the Honda civic. Boring after a while. My sunroof got cracked when I lived in Illinois. It was about 1/3 the size of the tC. It was very expensive to fix. I can't even imagine how much it will cost on the tC
People, the Civic has been around for decades and has been a popular tuner for almost two decades...I don't think you are going to have to worry about the tC hitting critical mass with the mainstream crowd for a very long time. Even if it is massively popular in the import crowd, I doubt sales for the tC will top 100,000.
stickers.... im most likely gonna de-badge my car as soon as i get it. if someone wants to pay me to have stickers on the car then okay but otherwise.... no. im not gonna buy a sticker advertising for a company that isnt paying my bills.
Originally Posted by Undecided_Fate
i agree.... dont need rear downforce simply cuz its fwd and more weight = less mpg.
stickers.... im most likely gonna de-badge my car as soon as i get it. if someone wants to pay me to have stickers on the car then okay but otherwise.... no. im not gonna buy a sticker advertising for a company that isnt paying my bills.
stickers.... im most likely gonna de-badge my car as soon as i get it. if someone wants to pay me to have stickers on the car then okay but otherwise.... no. im not gonna buy a sticker advertising for a company that isnt paying my bills.
I fear that the interior (namely the seats) will look as terrible in real life as the pictures suggest. Could the all-black seats look any more plain? The back seat looks embarassing in the photos! Compare the pics of the tC seats to photos of the Ion Red Line (http://www.saturn.com/saturn/images/...edlineion7.jpg) or the RX-8 (http://www.familycar.com/RoadTests/M...s/Interior.jpg) and suddenly the tC (https://www.scionlife.com/gallery/tc/tc08.jpg) looks very unfinished and cheap.
I also fear the steering wheel will be too ugly, too. (I've seen one pic of a two-tone steering wheel in the tC ... not sure if that will actually be an option or not, though.)
-matt
I also fear the steering wheel will be too ugly, too. (I've seen one pic of a two-tone steering wheel in the tC ... not sure if that will actually be an option or not, though.)
-matt
1.) Getting everything planned then getting SCREWED on financing.
2.) I'm going to have to learn how to drive a stick.
3.) Hard to get into back seat.
4.) Small driver's seat with that console in the middle (I'm a pretty big guy).
2.) I'm going to have to learn how to drive a stick.
3.) Hard to get into back seat.
4.) Small driver's seat with that console in the middle (I'm a pretty big guy).
Originally Posted by matty2112
I fear that the interior (namely the seats) will look as terrible in real life as the pictures suggest. Could the all-black seats look any more plain? The back seat looks embarassing in the photos! Compare the pics of the tC seats to photos of the Ion Red Line (http://www.saturn.com/saturn/images/...edlineion7.jpg) or the RX-8 (http://www.familycar.com/RoadTests/M...s/Interior.jpg) and suddenly the tC (https://www.scionlife.com/gallery/tc/tc08.jpg) looks very unfinished and cheap.
I also fear the steering wheel will be too ugly, too. (I've seen one pic of a two-tone steering wheel in the tC ... not sure if that will actually be an option or not, though.)
-matt
I also fear the steering wheel will be too ugly, too. (I've seen one pic of a two-tone steering wheel in the tC ... not sure if that will actually be an option or not, though.)
-matt
Originally Posted by djimpak
Originally Posted by matty2112
I fear that the interior (namely the seats) will look as terrible in real life as the pictures suggest. Could the all-black seats look any more plain? The back seat looks embarassing in the photos! Compare the pics of the tC seats to photos of the Ion Red Line (http://www.saturn.com/saturn/images/...edlineion7.jpg) or the RX-8 (http://www.familycar.com/RoadTests/M...s/Interior.jpg) and suddenly the tC (https://www.scionlife.com/gallery/tc/tc08.jpg) looks very unfinished and cheap.
I also fear the steering wheel will be too ugly, too. (I've seen one pic of a two-tone steering wheel in the tC ... not sure if that will actually be an option or not, though.)
-matt
I also fear the steering wheel will be too ugly, too. (I've seen one pic of a two-tone steering wheel in the tC ... not sure if that will actually be an option or not, though.)
-matt
And the Ion Red Line and the Scion tC are essentially the exact same price considering the tC needs the supercharger to match the Red Line's horsepower. So those both become $20,000 cars at that point, and the seats of one look great while the other looks like they were modeled after the 1992 Dodge Shadow.
Guess I should see them for myself in person before I criticize much more....
-matt
Originally Posted by matty2112
Yep. I'm talking SEATS. Not luxury items or amenities or engine size. Seats. The exact type of item that a $16,000 car can do just as well as a $26,000 car.
Car makers have to weigh what they want to go all out on, and what they want to cut costs on. I would much rather have seats that are not quite as pretty as the ones in $26 cars then have a underpowerd engine, or sucky handling or something.
Originally Posted by JSVH
Car makers have to weigh what they want to go all out on, and what they want to cut costs on.
[/quote] I would much rather have seats that are not quite as pretty as the ones in
$26 cars then have a underpowerd engine, or sucky handling or something.[/quote]
i agree.
I'm afraid I won't be able to afford the tC. My job at Sykes, im getting laid off on August 7th due to our jobs moving overseas. Gotta find a steady job first.
$26 cars then have a underpowerd engine, or sucky handling or something.[/quote]
i agree.
I'm afraid I won't be able to afford the tC. My job at Sykes, im getting laid off on August 7th due to our jobs moving overseas. Gotta find a steady job first.
Originally Posted by Pete
True, but that doesn't explain why the seats look worse than the seats on a corolla. I hope it's just the pictures.
Originally Posted by matty2112
Originally Posted by djimpak
Originally Posted by matty2112
I fear that the interior (namely the seats) will look as terrible in real life as the pictures suggest. Could the all-black seats look any more plain? The back seat looks embarassing in the photos! Compare the pics of the tC seats to photos of the Ion Red Line (http://www.saturn.com/saturn/images/...edlineion7.jpg) or the RX-8 (http://www.familycar.com/RoadTests/M...s/Interior.jpg) and suddenly the tC (https://www.scionlife.com/gallery/tc/tc08.jpg) looks very unfinished and cheap.
I also fear the steering wheel will be too ugly, too. (I've seen one pic of a two-tone steering wheel in the tC ... not sure if that will actually be an option or not, though.)
-matt
I also fear the steering wheel will be too ugly, too. (I've seen one pic of a two-tone steering wheel in the tC ... not sure if that will actually be an option or not, though.)
-matt
And the Ion Red Line and the Scion tC are essentially the exact same price considering the tC needs the supercharger to match the Red Line's horsepower. So those both become $20,000 cars at that point, and the seats of one look great while the other looks like they were modeled after the 1992 Dodge Shadow.
Guess I should see them for myself in person before I criticize much more....
-matt
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