Glass sucks too....
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I tint windows and know a little about glass. The glass that our cars seem to be better than most cars. It has a nice look to it and is very clear. But on the other hand, if it is the same as all toyotas, toyota glass seems to scratch easier, just like mercedes. It doesn't mean that they are cheep. glass isn't made to withstand harsh surroundings.
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Originally Posted by tckurt
Lets whine a little... you have chips in your glass from rocks... what do you think its made out of steel of course if a rock hits your car at 50mph + its gonna do something and as for paint just like glass has regulation... people automatically read a forum and assume it is happening to everyone... like when rattles happened in a handful of peoples cars people started crying about it and said that the tc wasn't made well b/c 1 out of 100+K sold has a problem doesn't mean its made cheaply or anything like that even if 500 out 100+K have a problem that normal you are just reading about it on the forum so you figure that if it happened to them it must be happening to everyone... if you have a problem go to the dealership and use your warranty to fix it and if it doesnt fall under that go to your insurance company that is why you pay for it... don't cry about it do something to fix it.
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You go on here and you read about all these problems with the tC. Let me ask you this question HOW MANY tC OWNERS COME HERE IN RELATION TO HOW MANY ARE ON THE ROAD? Also How Many of those people come here only to complain about there cars? Take anything you read on here with a grain of salt not as fact. Last i heard toyota sold 35,000 tCs is the membership of this entire Site anywhere close to that? So you have a problem your probably the 1 out of every hundred. If 99 people out of 100 are not having a problem that tells that your in the minority. And from a quality control standpoint thats great.
We represent a very small number of tC owners. You may be having a problem but that is no reason to go bad mouthing Toyota. Cause frankly it might be a very isolated incident. By those stats thats 3,500 bad cars for every 35,000 cars.
We represent a very small number of tC owners. You may be having a problem but that is no reason to go bad mouthing Toyota. Cause frankly it might be a very isolated incident. By those stats thats 3,500 bad cars for every 35,000 cars.
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^ dang chill bro
He can badmouth Toyota if he wants, it's his opinion, but we know what's right and what the truth is.
Anyone in any car can have badluck causing them to hate the manu. in return!
He can badmouth Toyota if he wants, it's his opinion, but we know what's right and what the truth is.
Anyone in any car can have badluck causing them to hate the manu. in return!
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3 pits on my car as well, 11k miles.
I also think the glass is a little weak on the Tc...
my experiences:
- 91 civic #1 = 50k miles while owning, no noticable pits or cracks
- 91 civic #2 = 70k miles, one noticable pit, rock was 1" in diameter so its to be expected
- 89 4runner = 80k miles, no pits no cracks.
I also think the glass is a little weak on the Tc...
my experiences:
- 91 civic #1 = 50k miles while owning, no noticable pits or cracks
- 91 civic #2 = 70k miles, one noticable pit, rock was 1" in diameter so its to be expected
- 89 4runner = 80k miles, no pits no cracks.
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Originally Posted by johnnyicesae
You go on here and you read about all these problems with the tC. Let me ask you this question HOW MANY tC OWNERS COME HERE IN RELATION TO HOW MANY ARE ON THE ROAD? Also How Many of those people come here only to complain about there cars? Take anything you read on here with a grain of salt not as fact. Last i heard toyota sold 35,000 tCs is the membership of this entire Site anywhere close to that? So you have a problem your probably the 1 out of every hundred. If 99 people out of 100 are not having a problem that tells that your in the minority. And from a quality control standpoint thats great.
We represent a very small number of tC owners. You may be having a problem but that is no reason to go bad mouthing Toyota. Cause frankly it might be a very isolated incident. By those stats thats 3,500 bad cars for every 35,000 cars.
We represent a very small number of tC owners. You may be having a problem but that is no reason to go bad mouthing Toyota. Cause frankly it might be a very isolated incident. By those stats thats 3,500 bad cars for every 35,000 cars.
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Originally Posted by MesSCIah
How about you break your car in and then get back to me.... 200 miles doesn't really back up your statements
Sorry you've been having such a rough time... I'm just glad nothing really bad has happend to my car yet.
Call the number in my signature line, tell them the problems you've been having, get a case number, and get your car fixed.
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Originally Posted by MesSCIah
So just because you haven't experienced this problem, does it mean that it's ok for glass to flake and scratch like paint?
"Well, it hasn't happened to me, so it doesn't sound like a problem....."
"Well, it hasn't happened to me, so it doesn't sound like a problem....."
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Originally Posted by Somnambulated
Again, you need to take this problem up with your dealership, and then with Scion Customer Service. Members on this board are not responsable for any problems concerning your car, and cannot do anything directly to help you resolve said difficulties.
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happend to me last night for the first time. i was driving on the high way heard this pop noise, rock hit the windshield and made a minor crack. worst thing is it's right in my view while im driving.
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if your windshield gets hit with a bunch of rocks hard enough its going to chip it....
ive already had to have mine replaced. rick flew off the road and put a nice star in it that spread to a 3 foot crack...but then again i had to replace the one on my new civic too...
ive already had to have mine replaced. rick flew off the road and put a nice star in it that spread to a 3 foot crack...but then again i had to replace the one on my new civic too...
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Originally Posted by Captain tC
In response to your statement regarding us not representing the whole scion population. How do you think actual statistics are taken? When studies show 75% of the population suffer from sleeping disorders, do you think they actually go out and survey every person on the planet? NO! they do their surveys on smaller groups that would give a good indication of what the population as a whole might be like. It may or may not be right. Its a good thing that people share their experiences on here and form oppinions based on lots of similar experiences (if they exist). So take a breath and relax.
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Originally Posted by tckurt
Originally Posted by Captain tC
In response to your statement regarding us not representing the whole scion population. How do you think actual statistics are taken? When studies show 75% of the population suffer from sleeping disorders, do you think they actually go out and survey every person on the planet? NO! they do their surveys on smaller groups that would give a good indication of what the population as a whole might be like. It may or may not be right. Its a good thing that people share their experiences on here and form oppinions based on lots of similar experiences (if they exist). So take a breath and relax.
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one thing that people have to take into concideration is areodynamics. some vehicles I find are more prone to getting hit. I've replaced hundreds of windshields and to be honest I've done more domestics then foreigns. I know it sucks... but untill they come out w/ a bug deflector for the hood (which i doubt, not to mention how ugly it would be) nothings going to change. (btw those deflectors work for most of the rocks too)
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Re: Glass sucks too....
Originally Posted by MesSCIah
Ok, we've all heard about or experienced paint problems. I know I have.
Anyone else have any glass problems? Must also be extremely cheap. I have had my tC for just about 6 months with just over 5000 miles and I have probably 6 noticable pits on my windshield. They aren't really big, but it always looks like you got crap on your window. Also, both of my side windows have some very unattractive vertical scratches that are somewhat deep. Granted, we still have a good amount of dirt on the roads still, but I don't ride anybodys ___ and I keep my car pretty clean. Do I now need to vacuum around my windows before I roll them down? Is this "soft" glass? I love my car, but it seems to be falling apart on me. My 93 MX-3 had no problems like these the 4 years I owned it..... and this was a MILD winter.
Just want to know if this a problem with anyone else...... cuz it sucks.....
Anyone else have any glass problems? Must also be extremely cheap. I have had my tC for just about 6 months with just over 5000 miles and I have probably 6 noticable pits on my windshield. They aren't really big, but it always looks like you got crap on your window. Also, both of my side windows have some very unattractive vertical scratches that are somewhat deep. Granted, we still have a good amount of dirt on the roads still, but I don't ride anybodys ___ and I keep my car pretty clean. Do I now need to vacuum around my windows before I roll them down? Is this "soft" glass? I love my car, but it seems to be falling apart on me. My 93 MX-3 had no problems like these the 4 years I owned it..... and this was a MILD winter.
Just want to know if this a problem with anyone else...... cuz it sucks.....