yea....no....
they have a few, well a few that I see monthly
major issue is a/c and rear quarter panel rattle

 

now don't think that I am defending Toyota at all.. because nothing is perfect, not even Toyota. I don't mean to burst anyone's bubble, but it's true. When you see that quoted "problems per 100" toyota and lexus are the lowest for like i think 10 or 11 problems per 100.. It still shows that nothing is ZERO problems per 100.

All it means is that on average toyota products (toyota, lexus, scion) will have less than the "average". But even *gasp* toyota has their problems as well, just tend to be less sever overall. That's why they tout that toyota's are MORE relable..

Isn't it fun what you can do with statistics? lol

But if you think that's a lot of tsb's for the scion tc.. look up something like a chevrolet or ford.. it's quite sad when you see how many there are there.. Looking at all the really serious problems over there makes you long for a wind deflector that needs some protective film, instead of a transmission that's shot..

 

 

I think some of you just like to hear yourselves complain. If you dont like the tC so be it and move on. I love my tC and its faults. EVERY car has its faults. I AM a lucky one who owns a "2005" that does not rattle but there are other things I think they could have done better on the car... sure whatever. But I loved the tC when I saw it so I decided to buy it along with the things I would like to fix. Stop your whinning and move on to a car "you think" would be best for you. I know there is also a Lemon post here on the tC and its just a joke IMO.

 

uh, they weren't complaining in this thread
there are 9other ones for rattle cry babies

this was just an FYI type thing, that was taken alittle out of spec

tried to bring it back into spec

 

i think a few scion owner have to realize that it's a scion not a lexus. we are expecting a lexus quality, yet we only paid for a scion. for its' price, i can live with a a few rattles as long as the mechanical or drivetrain stays reliable....

 

I suggest you try buyin a car on your own, and not out of your parents' pockets to learn about the value of a hard-earned dollar.

$18,000 isn't exactly Kia territory, and no car for that amount should have the extent of rattles the tC has.

My sister's 3 year old Corolla, argualy inferior to the tC, doesn't have rattle issues.

 

not ALL tC owners have the same issues
yes i agree when paying $17k, it shouldn't be a noise machine, but not ALL tCs are noise makers

 

Are a lot of the TSB's for 05's and not 06's?

When the dealer said there was nothing they could do for my rattle trap, I gave them the numbers for the TSB's and their reply was that they did not apply to my 06...

I got them to at least "look in to it" which lead them to "tightening some sunroof screws".

not that it did any good.

 

most of the TSBs are for 05s, not 06s
actually just checked...dont have any NVH TSBs for 06 models
but that doesn't mean the methods use to cure some of the 05 issues couldn't be used

 

It may just be that not enought 06 owners have reported the issues to warrant having a TSB for them.

I'd say keep taking it back and have them check it, if there's nothing they can do, call Scion Corporate and tell them that's the response you're getting and you're not satisfied with it.

 

no, its that the 06models had these issues addressed

 

Ya, but I'm thinking maybe they have their own separate issues. The 05 TSBs may be "performed" on the 06 models before they leave, but there could be other, new, issues to address.

 

techs dont waste their time with that, and if they leave port being done..that is possible

 

You obviously have not spent much time dealing with working on vehicles.. EVERY car on the market has a list of tsbs on them. The focus was the absolute worst I have ever seen, but that is another subject. My dad deals with every dealer in town back home to buy parts, and hears all about the tsb lists and has even sent in some customer cars to the dealer for items that he found to be covered by tsb related work (he owns a shop). Ford, GM, Mazda, Nissan, Toyota, they all have them. Some are more serious than others. Scion has had ONE recall, period.. the sunroof laminate fix. Technically they called it a service campaign.. but still relatively close.

A tsb is just that: a technical service bulletin. Did you take the time to actually read any of them? Most of them are bulletins instructing techs on how to work on various parts of the car, installing options, etc. Not all tsbs are "issues" that need fixed. And the ones that are issues are there for those cars that actually have them. .so if they find something that may have been off on a number of the production runs, they issue a tsb so that when those customers come in there will be documentation on it and instructions to fix it. Hell, I have seen tsbs on how to install an auto-dimming mirror on some models because the original instructions were not so great. They dont release all of those to people because those that dont know what they are to start with start panicking and thinking there is a million issues with thier car and trying to take it back in for service that does not need to be performed.

And as far as the car being bad because of a recall... tell that to owners of the BMW,s Porche cayennes, etc that were recalled last year. It happens on all makes and models.

I will "face the facts".. mine has no rattles or issues after 30,000 miles. I dont NEED the tsbs because mine doesnt have the issues. If an issue arises, I will take it in to have it corrected. I really wish people would stop panick mongering before learning what the tsbs and other documention actually means.

 

was hoping you would chime in on this post

 

 

thats just mean, Al

 

From my prior experience with my 05 tC, NONE of the TSBs helped the rattles. I had to do myself over time with trial and error.

Kevin

 

From my prior experience with my 05 tC, NONE of the TSBs helped the rattles. I had to do myself over time with trial and error.

Kevin