If it's determined at the dealership that it was something defective from the factory, then yes... that's what will happen. If it's something about the dash lights install done at the dealership, then the dealership will fix it.... either way, the car will probably be rebuilt and sold again.

We had a car at our dealership a little while back that the A/C went out on.... just the entire A/C system, and it was traded to the customer for another car, sent back to the factory to have a completely new system installed, and then sent back to us to sell again... sitting on the lot right now with only 1,200 miles on it.

So if it's a factory defect, factory fixes it... dealership goof up... dealership should fix it... or that's the way our stuff works.

 

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well good luck with the mazda

Get ready to see the dealer alot csause those puppies crap out alot!

 

I just had an idea - is it possible that the short circuit was caused by condensation creating a circuit across two wires?

I just had bizarre experience with condensation inside the CD player. You can read about it at

https://www.scionlife.com/forums/vie...728&highlight=

 

I dunno.... i cant seem to get the pics up....

 

what are you smoking? Mazdas have excellent quality ratings and the 3 has received tons of positive press.

 

Mazdas only get like 100K out of their motors before you need to replace them.

 

lets see here,

A. FORD owns part of them, they occasionally use the same parts etc.....

B. They can receive all the good press, zoom zoom, or whatever. That doesnt mean they build a good car, in fact they build cars that dont last as long as hondas or toyotas.

C. Friend just bought a mazda 6, and the rear doorlocks arent working anymore. Sure that will happen to anycar, but i can guarantee you that thats just the beginning of his problems.

sorry for hijacking this thread lol

 

My 1994 Mazda MX6 145K miles when I sold it, my1992 Mazda Miata 189K miles and going strong. It depends alot on how well maintained the vehicle is. "Only get like 100K miles" is BullCrap. I've seen Hondas and Toyotas crap out early too.

The 3 is not a bad choice. If something bad happened to my tC, I'd get another tC. Personal preferance.

 

hope that doesnt happen to any other tC's

 

not to change the thread.. but i had to respond to this.. to compare a mazda from 94 and 92 is NOT the same as 2005-2006! Ford did not participate in designing their engines back then! those were mazda only.. shared parts were more like ford was taking from mazda's part bin rather than mazda taking from Ford..

So no you can't compare the 1994 and 1992 reliability and long lasting qualities to today's mazda.. just not the same anymore..

and yeah nothing perfect with honda and toyota, this is true we live in an imperfect world.. but odds are mazda taking Ford parts.. the car will not last as long as toyota.. especially the engine..

 

Hmm, well.. the second generation MX-6's had engines produced in Michigan for both the Probe and the MX-6. The KL03 was used in the v6's in America, and the KLZE was used for the v6's in Japan. Different heads, emissions standards, etc. I had a kl03 mx-6 for a year and half as my first car, before I gave it to my brother when i bought the tC. Has 230k miles on it, still going somewhat strong.. needs a new head gasket, so it runs through oil every 3rd or so gas tank. But hey, everything still works pretty much, so I can vouch for the reliability.

 

yes.. but they were not ford engines.. they were mazda, ford was using their parts.. just like the escort 1991-1995 was based off the 323 mazda.. and the probe was just a different body style of the mx-6.. my point was.. ford using mazda parts, not the other way around.. that's why they were lasting, they were NOT ford parts..

 

American made though, I think it was under the ford badge. Don't quote me on it. Trust me, I don't like Ford a single bit. Nothing I laugh at more is seeing a ford truck that cost the guy 20k come rolling up in the shop with no power windows or locks. I hate how some of these American companies cut corners to save a few bucks.. but that's another discussion. As far as reliability, it has a LOT to do with how you maintain your vehicle, period.

 

oh yeah the parts were under the ford name. really surprised people that ford was lasting so long.. until the truth is revealed that they really weren't "ford parts" but mazda rebadged as ford..

Yeah I think the american companies need to get their act together.. It's not the american worker, it's the management putting these parts out, etc.. but hey i'm just changing the thread.. apologize..

and yeah maintenance does play a part.. i agree.. but on the other hand, have also seen perfect maintenance, babied the car, and it still dies..

toyota may not be perfect either, avalon has steering issues, prius has a computer problem (stalling), etc.. etc.. nothing's perfect but the odds are in more favor towards toyota when it comes to correcting a problem instead of making excuses..

 

Mazda > Ford. Still.

That's why Ford wants to be their partner.

 

yes toyotsas will take a greater beating, all i was saying is maxdas take the least of all the jap imports and die young. And mazda is also doing things the otherway around too, in terms of badging. look @ the mazda tribute and their light pickup truck.......all ford chasis, all ford junk!

 

Your dreaming if you think mazda makes poor quality cars, just because they lag a little behind toyota and honda doesnt make them bad cars. Atleast they've got some style in their line-up... until the scion lable there wasnt a toyota I'd ever consider owning.
http://www.jdpower.com/pdf/2003023.p...vey%20car'
http://used-cars.autos.yahoo.com/con...used_cars.html

 

i see mazda picture? O_o

 

He removed them.