Yeah, still slow

 

That is so true. I have two cars. A chevy cobalt SS/SC and a 1986 toyota corolla coupe with a single cam and automatic. Both sides say get rid of the other, but can't love the both to death. I grew up around chevys and toyotas can't say wich I love more. Funny thing is the honda guys won't know what hit em when I show up in my rolla.

 

Who cares how old I am? Honestly, I feel bad that you have to sit here and criticize my age against my opinions. You have no idea who I am what I do, what my parents do.

Great you paid your car FULL IN CASH! With no help...thats awsome man. What are you trying to impress me?

Do you know how many kids at my school (I'm in college) have a tC. It is the most common car by far at ANY college. All of my friends tell me from their schools too. It's ridiculous.

I'm sure you've read the article on here, but the tC is the most common college student car. So I mean what, are typing behind your computer telling me you paid in cash and you live on your own means something to me? It means NOTHING to me, you're 27 I'm 18. If you feel the need to speak down on those when they are in the same position as you, and you're older...I know you must feel like crap.

You're pretty ____ poor at even making this realistic tho. At this point I know you're not even worth it anymore...you're mind is just not built for what I'm saying.

I was making an exaggerated example. It was pretty clear what I was saying.

If you have to give up a big part of your future (new home) and cut down on an extreme amount of expenses today (as you all listed) just to buy a new car, YOU CANNOT AFFORD THE CAR. Just because you can cut back extremely in other areas to buy a car. And you guys are saying, oh I can stop my mortgage and buy a better car, so that means I can afford it!

yep, thats the mindset that got you where you are today buddy.

75 more dollars?

That depends on how long you financed it, and so many factors. Why would you make a comment like that?

 

The point was, you'd have to sacrifice MPG to try to par up with the performance of a Civic.

Why buy a tC or Civic if we cared about performance? Well all of us are given a price range, so since we are in the Si/tC price range, tell me what car we'd get for performance at that point?

The GTi is just about as fast as the Si. However the GTi has a turbo...a little bit more, but still thats not performance right?

I'm trying to explain that too, but if you read this thread you'd be surprised.

 

[quote="HR_Guy"

What in the blue hell are you saying?

Do you know that Porsche makes the MOST reliable cars? Some crazy statistic like 95% of all Porsche's that were ever made are still running today.


That was like me telling you the I smoked an SLR with my stock tC...if you have ANY idea what I'm talking about.



LOL @ this thread.

Porsche does not make the most reliable cars. Find me where it says 95% of them are still running.[/quote]

Someone also said that just because the Porsche is more, doesn't mean it's more reliable, as if that was any part of my logic...why would I pick a Porsche out of a Benz or a Aston Martin?

I never said Porsche is the most reliable car. It's a crazy fact, I forgot where I found it...95% is probably a bit extreme but it was a high number...I believe about 90% or so.

Porsche's are very good, DD worthy cars. I see this ____ everyday, you don't have to believe me. It doesn't matter! Hahahah...I'm just telling you what it is, if you want statistics then find it. If you don't want to believe me then don't.

However, if you're sitting here telling me that Porsche's are not reliable cars...it's to a point where I'm not going to even debate on any car outside the 30,000 mark with you guys...done.

 

 

Aight, so it has gotten blown up out of proporation from the original topic.

No one is better than anybody on here. I'm not better than you. You're aren't better than me...

On topic...
...

*goes to thread about someone trading in their tC for an Si*

 

I guess my story was incomplete. If you had bothered to ask instead of judge, you would have found out that it wasnt just one dealer that was giving me crap. Every Honda dealer I went to gave me the same line of "a couple of weeks if you put down a deposit now." In the end, I did put down my deposit with the dealer who I thought was going to give me the least BS. Turns out I was wrong. Not to mention that the Honda dealers were all much more agressive.

As far as customer service is concerned, I think I made my point. I was brought up to believe that customers should be treated honestly and fairly, which Honda (in the Cleveland area) did not do. Based on that principle, Honda did not deserve my business. No matter how great a car is, its pointless to take it up the a$$ for it, and there is always a competing model that will compare, and in this case, the S/C tC was the one. Toyota treated me well, and earned my business. End of story

 

 

At the end of the day it was just bad experience. I mean if it is going to be THAT much of a hassle where every dealer in your Cleveland area is causing all those problems...possibly. However, if you wanted the Si that bad I'm sure you would have found a way to get it.

 

i drove the new 4 door si, and it was a nice car, but until vtec kicked in it was really not anything special. for the extra that your paying for the si, id say get the tc and mod it out with what ever you want to suit you. The tc is such a good deal for what you pay, and ive never had a problem with it 29000 miles later.

 

On tC versus Si:

They are cars with different characteristics. Some people like one over the other. They move at the same rate when crawling through traffic though. How many of you will dump the clutch to get those 13~15 sec quarter miles over and over again?

On auto finances:

I can afford an EVO, STi, 350Z, etc. Why haven't I purchased the said cars? By making smart financial decisions and not buy things that do not maximize my investment. My goal for a car was a sporty daily driver. A 350Z will do nothing for me when I'm stuck in morning traffic that a tC can't do. $3000 yearly insurance for speedy cars also irks me. I don't like getting ripped off by the insurance companies.

On maturity:

Age and maturity are two different things. Your opinions are fine, but at least fact check some of those statements you believe to be true.

 

This thread is fun

 

I was also thinking about getting an Si but they were asking for 25,000 dollars and didn't want to go lower. That is a lot for a civic. It's a pretty nice car though.

 

Quoted for f*cking truth.
I'm more than content with going fast after seeing the results.

 

Newsflash genius, even Honda 4 bangers guzzle as much as V8s when you run them hard.

 

so you're an attention *****. your mother should be slapped for not giving you any.

 

This is funny. You DID say Porsche makes the most reliable cars. If you're going to claim that Porsche makes the most reliable cars, don't tell others to go find the proof when you can't even prove it yourself. You should really stop pulling facts out of your @sshole.

I also never said they are not reliable. Not sure where that came from, but whatever floats your boat kid. Now go back to mommy and daddy and cry about the Si...maybe they'll buy you one

Calling an Si a performance car...what a joke.

 

Reliability and quality aren't the same thing, but they're somewhat related:


Toyota's quality has been going the way of the Titanic. I hope they start to shape up.
I haven't seen a Porsche dead on the side of the road. That's because there aren't that many of them to begin with and most of their owners have money so they have them well maintained.

The rest of the european brands are just pathetically low on the scale. VW and Land Rover?

 

I believe JD Power's rating is based off problems reported within the first 90 days of ownership. I wouldn't expect that to be interpreted as being the most reliable car. Initial quality and longevity are different. Otherwise that list would indicate Hyundai is more reliable than most manufacturers.