tcleazy-girl

No need to get upset.

listen go get yourself a cheap $3 key cut at walmart. Start your engine with that particular key. It will crank but it won't fire up. Now put your registered transponder key anywhere next to that cheap key closer to the sending ring of the immobilizer system. The result is the engine will fire up with that cheap key because you're tricking the system. Then take away the registered key and put it in your glove box, but leave the engine running with the nontransponder key. If the engine is still running with the registered key away from the sending ring, do you think that it is receiving that signal all the time? Only way to verifiy what I'm saying for yourself is by doing it. I'm doing it that way and I'm not BS'n.

ecko04

I know what you were saying before, i'm trying to see how it relates to his situation.

Your key was broken, you go to walmart to have a new key made, cool. The new key works but won't start the car because of the transponder. You take the transponder, put it by the ignition switch and voila, the key starts the car. After the car is started you can remove the transponder until the next starting situation...makes perfect sense.


Now how that relates to
Is what I don't understand. His key is still in the ignition after the stall, and the car is not running so it has already passed the verification that the transponder is correct and should start the car.

This is not the case for you; you would need to place the transponder back next to the key cylinder for the car to start. In your case, the problem is electrical, for his it is mechanical.

tcleazy-girl

Well, my point being made was that he was trying to start his car from the run position, which at that point the engine run time would be over 5 minutes until he completely turn off his ignition.

Oh I just edited the post you've quoted

Domo

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this quote, along with all of my quotes...lulz....are the only ones that make any logical sense.

And tcsleazy, you sound like FallonBMT.

tcleazy-girl

Damn you guys just hate listening to women, LOL.



Anyway, The main question for ecko:

Is the immobilizer system continuously receiving signals after startup after what I just told you of my situation of removing my registered key away fron sending ring?

tcleazy's answer = I believe not under my experience. So it can relate to his issue.

DJ08tC

lol

a lot of talk for a easy problem

tcleazy-girl

^^^^And your advice was the same thing I'm saying.

it's cuz i'm a girl and my opinion don't seem to matter.

DJ08tC

well you went to too much in depth stuff. lol its not because you are a girl

tcleazy-girl

well how many had their key broken in half and did what I did to trick the immobilizer system. Very slim.

The OP is asking for support, I gave my explanation. What do you expect?

TRD05TC

its probably just a safety thing for the car so u dont do any damage to the car..i did the same thing wen i first bought mine,it wouldnt start back up so i had to push it to the side of the road and wait a couple minutes then it was fine

ecko04

It's not because you're a woman, it's because what you're saying makes no sense and does not relate to his problem.

I never said the transponder was communicating with the responder beyond starting the car. After the car is running it has no need to communicate anymore.

What i'm saying is his key is completely intact, not broken like yours so it has nothing to do with his situation at all.

Would you experience this issue if your key were not broken and you weren't rigging the transponder next to the key cylinder? Absolutely not. Fix the key, problem goes away. This does not relate to the OP.

DJ08tC

okay i went and tested this, you do NOT have to turn the key all the way off. It started up just fine with the key at the on position.

tcleazy-girl

I did mention earlier that you would have to reset the engine running time and wake up the immobilizer system after the car stalls, Right? You would have to cycle the switch off to begin the authentication sequence. Correct?
And that it was normal.

tcleazy-girl

Yeah, and what was the engine running time at, huh?

Sure is not enough time for the immoblizer to slack off considering an engine running over a 2-3 hour period from a stalled engine would be sufficient time to slack off.

DJ08tC

omfg are you serious right now?, does it really matter if you have to turn it all the way off or not, i just tested it to see. It still takes practically the same amount of time to do either one.

just for you when i go home next week and drive 3 hrs im going to stall when i get off the highway to see if i have to turn the key all the way off or if i can just leave it at on.


you want a easy fix, dont stall

Domo

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^^oh my, he speaks the truth.

TxtC27

Whoa, so much rage and misunderstanding in this thread.

CSOCSO

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yepp...sorry for the stupid ____ what i said. I dont know why i said that. Right after that post i went to my job and realized what i just said......

Whatever.. bottom line: same ____ happened to me long time ago.
I was sitting in my car and i couldnt start the car.. it didnt ever crank.. NOTHING!

So all u have to do is put the car in 1st gear, clutch depressed, let the car roll 1-2 feet and jump off the clutch so the engine turns. After that the engine started up.
It worked for me... maybe it was a coincident and maybe i moved the floor mat with my right leg or i dont know.. but right after i did that the car started up.


OP could try this next time he stalls the engine.