Things I'm surprised aren't made for the tC
I know there's not as many out there as Civics, but I thought by now there would be:
1. Replacement dash trim for around the console and the speedo and steering wheel in other colors like shiny black, matching exterior color, carbon fiber, nice walnut type woodgrain, etc. Not just overlays which never look factory. The silver just makes the car look so cheap. Is it so expensive to set up production to mold plastic?
2. A plethora of different tail lights. I can't believe no one makes them. Maybe it really is expensive to mold plastic?
3. A $500 supercharger kit. A supercharger is 100 year old technology. It's nothing more than a fan driven by the motor. Did you know that it costs Toyota less than $1000 to make a 2AZFE engine? You can't tell me that it's more expensive to build a supercharger than an engine.
4. A replacement of some sort for that rediculous cover over the trunk/hatch that always falls of the headrests. Or some kind of retrofit that make sit stick on the headrests better. Definitely 1973 Ford Pinto type design and fitment there.
1. Replacement dash trim for around the console and the speedo and steering wheel in other colors like shiny black, matching exterior color, carbon fiber, nice walnut type woodgrain, etc. Not just overlays which never look factory. The silver just makes the car look so cheap. Is it so expensive to set up production to mold plastic?
2. A plethora of different tail lights. I can't believe no one makes them. Maybe it really is expensive to mold plastic?
3. A $500 supercharger kit. A supercharger is 100 year old technology. It's nothing more than a fan driven by the motor. Did you know that it costs Toyota less than $1000 to make a 2AZFE engine? You can't tell me that it's more expensive to build a supercharger than an engine.
4. A replacement of some sort for that rediculous cover over the trunk/hatch that always falls of the headrests. Or some kind of retrofit that make sit stick on the headrests better. Definitely 1973 Ford Pinto type design and fitment there.
Well don't forget that the scion is new to the market. Whereas the Civic has been out since 92. Give it some time. I'm actually surprised at how much is out for the Scions now. They probably have the biggest aftermarket for a car thats only 2 years old.
Oh, nevermind about #1, I just found this:
https://www.scionlife.com/forums/vie...105&highlight=
$$$$ though!
https://www.scionlife.com/forums/vie...105&highlight=
$$$$ though!
Originally Posted by TougeTerror
Well don't forget that the scion is new to the market. Whereas the Civic has been out since 92. Give it some time. I'm actually surprised at how much is out for the Scions now. They probably have the biggest aftermarket for a car thats only 2 years old.
But I actually find it a bit refreshing in a way. I mean, coming from driving my CRX where you can get anything and everything - too much, actually. Problem is, when the market becomes saturated with any and every mod you can think of, in limitless variations, you end up with a bunch of low quality eBay junk that every 16 year old punk *must have* on their car, and it actually detracts from the image of the car itself.
On the other hand, and as I mentioned already, I think it's kind of refreshing to drive a car that most people haven't already molested to the point of being outright gawdy. I can actually wait, and look forward to new and interesting products coming on to the market for a change as they're being developed, and so far, most of them don't totally suck!
I, for one, would like to see it stay that way, even though I know it's only inevitable as the car eventually gets older and highschool heros everywhere can pick one up for under $5k and their little velcro wallets can't buy them "real" mods.
"A replacement of some sort for that rediculous cover over the trunk/hatch that always falls of the headrests. "
Yeah, I've thought of making some sort of retractable cover ever since I got car. Something similar to roll up windowshades, except it would pull out from the headrest and attach to the mounting points. The current cargo cover is very clumsy and hard to deal with when not needed. I thought about manufacturing one but I don't know what demand there is for this.
Yeah, I've thought of making some sort of retractable cover ever since I got car. Something similar to roll up windowshades, except it would pull out from the headrest and attach to the mounting points. The current cargo cover is very clumsy and hard to deal with when not needed. I thought about manufacturing one but I don't know what demand there is for this.
Originally Posted by lucky
"A replacement of some sort for that rediculous cover over the trunk/hatch that always falls of the headrests. "
Yeah, I've thought of making some sort of retractable cover ever since I got car. Something similar to roll up windowshades, except it would pull out from the headrest and attach to the mounting points. The current cargo cover is very clumsy and hard to deal with when not needed. I thought about manufacturing one but I don't know what demand there is for this.
Yeah, I've thought of making some sort of retractable cover ever since I got car. Something similar to roll up windowshades, except it would pull out from the headrest and attach to the mounting points. The current cargo cover is very clumsy and hard to deal with when not needed. I thought about manufacturing one but I don't know what demand there is for this.
Originally Posted by io333
A supercharger is 100 year old technology. .
I don't think he was trying to compare a turbo to a SC. he was just pointing out that if it cost $1000 to build an entire engine, then it should cost alot less to build a SC, even a good one at that. But you're right, the same holds true for a turbo. Even a very well engineered, high quality turbo should cost less than our entire engine. I would have to point out though, that the price of an engine would certainly come down when you're making 100,000 of them. a SC would too, but they don't sell nearly as many.
Originally Posted by io333
1. Replacement dash trim for around the console and the speedo and steering wheel in other colors like shiny black, matching exterior color, carbon fiber, nice walnut type woodgrain, etc. Not just overlays which never look factory. The silver just makes the car look so cheap. Is it so expensive to set up production to mold plastic?
2. A plethora of different tail lights. I can't believe no one makes them. Maybe it really is expensive to mold plastic?
3. A $500 supercharger kit. A supercharger is 100 year old technology. It's nothing more than a fan driven by the motor. Did you know that it costs Toyota less than $1000 to make a 2AZFE engine? You can't tell me that it's more expensive to build a supercharger than an engine.
4. A replacement of some sort for that rediculous cover over the trunk/hatch that always falls of the headrests. Or some kind of retrofit that make sit stick on the headrests better. Definitely 1973 Ford Pinto type design and fitment there.
2. A plethora of different tail lights. I can't believe no one makes them. Maybe it really is expensive to mold plastic?
3. A $500 supercharger kit. A supercharger is 100 year old technology. It's nothing more than a fan driven by the motor. Did you know that it costs Toyota less than $1000 to make a 2AZFE engine? You can't tell me that it's more expensive to build a supercharger than an engine.
4. A replacement of some sort for that rediculous cover over the trunk/hatch that always falls of the headrests. Or some kind of retrofit that make sit stick on the headrests better. Definitely 1973 Ford Pinto type design and fitment there.
#2. TYC makes tails, so you can't really say "no one." Honestly though, if the market starts flooding with tails, they're all going to look like crap, but people will buy them anyways, just like 98% of the clear tails in existence.
#3. Show me a $500 supercharger kit for any vechicle that is reliable, dependable and puts out some real numbers. Then show me the same thing for a vehicle that didn't exist 2 years ago.
#4. If that thing is always falling off, you either broke it or it's defective. Mine has not fallen off once the entire time I've owned the car. And I remove it and replace it often to put my seats down and back up.
only reason why a 2az is that cheap is because it is a mass produced item, which cuts down tremendously on fabrication costs. A supercharger would never get to that level of production. If you were to design and manufacture a 4cyl engine from scratch, it would surely cost you tens of thousands of dollars if the production volume was not high enough.
I also agree about the cargo cover. Works absolutely perfect. As a matter of fact, you actually have to try to make it come off. If it is not staying on, it is broken. I really cant think of a better one out there. I am not a huge fan of the retractable type like my runner has on it.





