What is this next to the hood latch?
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my buddy had one of these installed in his explorer that he got from a local buy here pay here place...and see as he has bad credit. But the guy at the shop even said u can hit XXXXX and override the system for 3 times. Well recently my buddy had a Viper alarm installed and it appears that unit is pretty much just put inline with the ignition harness so that item has been BYPASSED :-) looked just like the one in the picture too just the dealer was smart enough to put up and under the dash not on the outside and visible LMAO
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Originally Posted by engifineer
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The least qualified people I have ever seen wore an ASE patch and worked at dealerships that charged twice the labor rates of a private shop. While these do not represent all dealership techs... simply saying they are dealer trained (or certified through ASE) does not in any way, shape or form mean that they know what they are doing. My dad.. a non ase certified mechanic with 40 + years experience has fixed countless rookie screw ups from local dealerships at a much cheaper labor rate, in less time and at actual time spent... not straight book labor and no minimum shop time. That is why the dealerships lose their customers as soon as warranty is out and why he keeps his for 20+ years.
That is why people are leary of dealerships. I do 100% of my own work, but honestly the last place I would go would be a dealership if I had to take it elsewhere. And I know there are a lot of good techs at dealerships. I have known a couple.. and they constantly complained about the hoardes of moron techs that were hired simply due to being certified and having to deal with the bad name those people gave them. They also both agreed that if they couldnt work on their own.. the dealer was the last place they would go
It is sad really. But it is due to the whole concept of "he is ase certified.. and we can send him to our training, so he will be a good tech".
The least qualified people I have ever seen wore an ASE patch and worked at dealerships that charged twice the labor rates of a private shop. While these do not represent all dealership techs... simply saying they are dealer trained (or certified through ASE) does not in any way, shape or form mean that they know what they are doing. My dad.. a non ase certified mechanic with 40 + years experience has fixed countless rookie screw ups from local dealerships at a much cheaper labor rate, in less time and at actual time spent... not straight book labor and no minimum shop time. That is why the dealerships lose their customers as soon as warranty is out and why he keeps his for 20+ years.
That is why people are leary of dealerships. I do 100% of my own work, but honestly the last place I would go would be a dealership if I had to take it elsewhere. And I know there are a lot of good techs at dealerships. I have known a couple.. and they constantly complained about the hoardes of moron techs that were hired simply due to being certified and having to deal with the bad name those people gave them. They also both agreed that if they couldnt work on their own.. the dealer was the last place they would go
It is sad really. But it is due to the whole concept of "he is ase certified.. and we can send him to our training, so he will be a good tech".I also do about 85-90% of my work unless its something i really don't mind letting the dealer take a stab at like alignments since i never learned or looked up the string alignment routine. These cars are built so well i think the 5 years i owned this this it was at the dealer 6 times. including the 3 free oil changes i got when the car was new. a gas tank replacement (warranty) and drive belts because it was cold all week.
the "job" on the install posted in the beginning of the thread is not that great. it was overlooked by the owner and should have been addressed before pickup/delivery. my mom's Certified Corolla had an alarm on it and they didn't remove the little LED on top of the steering column. their are no alarm pieces that are active on the car but if she was **** like most of us are about our vehicles, I'd write a complaint thread about it too.
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holy smoly......goto dealership right now an tel them to get you new dash piece and install it,that is not quality install,if they will not call scion corp and send them pictures o fthe shoddy work,I would not take a car that had that liek that installed in my car.
godness I took my car back to shop that did my alarm instal cause they did not zip tie my wires cleanly......
as fro what it is I do not know but looking at it I would not allow it to be there like that......that is gradeschool work.
godness I took my car back to shop that did my alarm instal cause they did not zip tie my wires cleanly......
as fro what it is I do not know but looking at it I would not allow it to be there like that......that is gradeschool work.
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wow sorry to post again but they could of zip tied it to the bundle of wires right behind the dash there instead of that crappy job.......ohhhhh.......i would be mad......get a new dash piece and it installed right.
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Ok, we got the car from Manhattan Beach Scion in SoCal last month, brand new, it had like 3 miles on it. I unplugged it and the car started just fine. It must be from the security they had, the dealer had to hit the door with his fist before opening it and hit the steering wheel before starting it, he said it was some kind of shock security they had. The only "security" i have is the panic button on the keyfob and remote lock/unlock, which is standard, i believe.
the dealer is an hour and a half away so i think i'll just unscrew the thing and fill the holes with something rather than drive all that way just to have a new dash put in for something so small.
the dealer is an hour and a half away so i think i'll just unscrew the thing and fill the holes with something rather than drive all that way just to have a new dash put in for something so small.
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You shouldn't have to hit the car to make it do anything. It is brand new. In the tC the security is only if they open the door. No motion sensors, no glass break sensors. The fact that he was hitting the car is very fishy.
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Originally Posted by 09tC_CB7
You shouldn't have to hit the car to make it do anything. It is brand new. In the tC the security is only if they open the door. No motion sensors, no glass break sensors. The fact that he was hitting the car is very fishy.
Any system that requires hitting the door is about the dumbest thing I have ever heard of
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my friends 01 Mazda Protege MP3 (rip ) had some wicked crazy alarm like that. you touch or tap the car, it gets upset and the alarm chirps. it's like a vibration sensor.
BMW's have a motion sensor in all of their vehicles except the E46 3 series.
if it's a "new" car check your option list they may have installed something you didn't know about and they did a horrible job installing whatever they installed. but have them get rid of it, make it look like new out of their pocket and worse comes to worse, get the legal people on it!
BMW's have a motion sensor in all of their vehicles except the E46 3 series.
if it's a "new" car check your option list they may have installed something you didn't know about and they did a horrible job installing whatever they installed. but have them get rid of it, make it look like new out of their pocket and worse comes to worse, get the legal people on it!
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Originally Posted by 09tC_CB7
You shouldn't have to hit the car to make it do anything. It is brand new. In the tC the security is only if they open the door. No motion sensors, no glass break sensors. The fact that he was hitting the car is very fishy.
"vibration sensor," that's the term was looking for
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Yea, thats exactly what we used at my dealer. You hold the disarm on our universal fob, hit the car to unlock it (we usually had the keys for the car to do that) then hit the steering wheel to disarm and start the car.
They just took the chip out of your brain (the ugly part screwed into the dash) to de-activate it or whatever, but they left the unit behind.
Ohwell.. if you don't want to hassle with it, just do what you said and take it out. Then put the screws back in the holes I guess
They just took the chip out of your brain (the ugly part screwed into the dash) to de-activate it or whatever, but they left the unit behind.
Ohwell.. if you don't want to hassle with it, just do what you said and take it out. Then put the screws back in the holes I guess
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I can't wait until a dealer dents a car showing the owner how to use the system (or the owner for that fact). I would freak if I saw anyone from the dealer doing this to my car. Security or not.
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Originally Posted by indelible
I unplugged it and the car started just fine. It must be from the security they had, the dealer had to hit the door with his fist before opening it and hit the steering wheel before starting it, he said it was some kind of shock security they had. The only "security" i have is the panic button on the keyfob and remote lock/unlock, which is standard, i believe.
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Originally Posted by 09tC_CB7
I can't wait until a dealer dents a car showing the owner how to use the system (or the owner for that fact). I would freak if I saw anyone from the dealer doing this to my car. Security or not.
