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Old Dec 25, 2008 | 06:28 PM
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Dont know if it is the right section but i figured that the problem is suspension related so i put it here....



well i have coilovers and was waiting for christmas money to get up on the alignment rack but it didnt make it...

my passenger tire was worn bald on the out side and to the markers on the inside.

driver side is worn to the markers outside and a little shy of the markers on inside

the rears have PLENTY of tread left...

I have - camber and - caster....

i think it is a toe problem and that the passenger tires has serious toe in, and the driver side has some toe in...thes tires wore down from new to bald in about 4 1/2 weeks....definitely not right


also incase it matters i have NITTO NEO-GENS stock specs
Old Dec 25, 2008 | 06:34 PM
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if your alignment is off enough and you drive a lot 4 1/2 weeks is plenty of time. Your driving habits and road conditions can only accelerate it further.

Also did you check your tire pressure? you may be underinflated
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driving habits are good.
i think the toe is off bad on the passenger and moderately on the driver

and yes they are 32psi thats what i thought the problem was so i checked them this morning (cool tires 55*) and it was 31~32psi


also i dont really drive that much i would say maybe 1000 miles since the coilovers were installed...

what could have happened during install/driving to knock the toe in so bad? anything?
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well when you lower the car or change the suspension it changes the geometry of the car and your front may have just been more affected than the rear.

When I lowered my car I did my alignment twice. Once right after installing everything and a 2nd time a week or 2 after once everything settled. Of course I was in a brakes and suspension course in college so I did the alignments and installed myself
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hmm firestone lifetime alignment FTW!
Old Dec 25, 2008 | 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by XIEmperorIX
well when you lower the car or change the suspension it changes the geometry of the car and your front may have just been more affected than the rear.

When I lowered my car I did my alignment twice. Once right after installing everything and a 2nd time a week or 2 after once everything settled. Of course I was in a brakes and suspension course in college so I did the alignments and installed myself
i know this...but it didnt track badly or have bad camber, so i figured i would wait til i had more money...now i will end up spending way more...

how do you adjust the toe on the tC if my friend can i can get on the rack but i would need to do the adjustments or i have to pay for the techs time...
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Well you have to remember everything needs time to settle so when it settled it may have affected the camber.

And to adjust the toe you just loosen up the jam nut on the tie rod and turn it in either direction to toe-in/out..i forgot which direction you need to turn for which but it shouldn't be hard to figure out lol
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alright so i need to take out the bolt that connects the tie-rod to the spindle/hub (i believe it is ball-joint) and the coilovers have the bodies notched for camber and they have pillowball mounts so camber will be easy...

anything else i should know emperor?
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no you don't take any bolts off. You just loosen it so that you can turn the tie rod. The jam nut is located on the tie rod itself. You loosen that and you'll be able to move the longer nut that's located on the tie rod in order to adjust the toe angle.

I hope that makes sense lol I don't have any pics to show you but once you get under the car you should be able to see what I'm talking about

Edit: Check this out http://blacktc.com/files/tcfrontalignment.pdf
Found this while trying to find a pic of a tie rod to explain what I was talking about haha that should answer all your questions.

This is one of those things I have a hard time explaining but it makes more sense in my head!
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o ok i know what your talkng about...

i was just wondering which part i actually rotated but that is perfectly clear to me...thanks emperor....

could i measure the front of tire and rear of tire and get a measurement??
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ok according to my measurements i am 7.375 mm out of spec

would this be drastic enough to lead to what i described??

also should i adjust drivers side 2mm and passenger 5mm??
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yeah 7mm is pretty off..thats way off.

As far as what you should adjust to I really don't know. I was spoiled with a machine that told me whether i was in spec or not as I was adjusting it lol sorry I can't really help you much more with that
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alright thanks man....well hopefully i will have a alignment machine open to me tomorrow for free or very little and i will just use it to try to 0 out the toe...
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figured i would come in and bring a conclusion to this thread...

my toe was in .57" on passenger and .22" on driver
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