I didnt' think about the cup holders. One of my biggest difficulties in my '99 Integra was no cupholders! I'd always forget when i offered to pick up fast food! Man, shifting and driveing with one hand, while talking on the phone...jk.

Well, I do want the shaft lower then stock, but the TWM does look REALLY short. Does anyone know the height difference between the TWM vs. B&M vs. TRD?

So far, I'm still leaning towards the B&M. Does anyone even have that?

 

Well, I read the description of the B&M shifter at trdsparks.com and it said it only drops the stick a half an inch. And I saw the pics on t6c9's car, and it looks pretty much stock height. Still too tall. Maybe I'll just get the TWM shifter and get a taller Sparco shift ****?

 

is the short shifter all that great of a mod? im not bashing im asking.... ive never driven a car with one installed or known anyone with one.

 

It is really a personall decision. If you've ever driven a ture sports car, and likes it, this mod will make it feel more like that. very quick, short shift engagements. I would imagine alot of people would really not like it.

 

I am going to install the TWM tomorrow. Does anybody have any words of wisdom?

 

how about you dont call me mr. nos. and if you seen how easy the cheap cloth on these seats stain you wouldnt want any drinks in your car either

 

love mine

 

^ witch one do you have?

 

TRD **** + TWM shifter = nice ;)

 

thats the look i want

 

Yes it does. All the twm shifter does is change the length of the shift arm, so of course it's going to be both lower and a shorter throw. It will also need more effort.

The TRD costs more becaues it comes with the entire plastic housing as well as the **** and shift arm, and because actual research and development went into it instead of TWM, who rushed out a poorly designed product to make money off suckers eager for an easy mod.

 

now its poorly designed
TRD cost more b/c of mark up by toyota not b/c of the amount of research that went in to it.
but lets just say they did do more research twm is still a shorter throw so you tell me which one is better?
performance wise the twm.

 

TWM made the shifter arm shorter AND moved the pivot point reducing the length of the throws. It is harder to install than TRD, but it's not an inferior shifter. If you are willing to get your hands dirty - save $150 and get a TWM...

 

I just installed the TWM and i love it....The shifting is alot quicker, and its also a little tighter to shift, which i didnt like at first but now i love, cause it feels like the gears click into place...feels a little more racey....

ps...aarontrini85 How Did U go About fixing Your shift boot...mine looks all scrunched up
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You probably meant my picture (above - TRD **** and TWM shifter), right?

If so, here is a little word-less DIY that I put together for people who asked how to fix the shift boot: http://zoltiz.com/cars/tc/bootdiy/

 

Oh yea, TRD markup? Thanks, I'm glad that you were on the team that designed it and feel qualified to make such statements.

I can accurately say that the TWM is poorly designed because it's just a shortened shift arm, period. It is widely known that shortening the shift arm is a ghetto way to make a short shifter. It increases effort, decreases shifter height (which is, for the sane, a bad thing), and also manages to reduce throw in the process.

If you're judging the shifters by the shortest throw possible you're a moron anyways. If you wanted a super short throw, why not just hack off your stock one and have it threaded by someone with a die and thread kit? That's pretty much what the TWM shifter is doing.

The TRD shifter does everything right: reduces throw, keeps the stock shifter height, and changes the attachment to the linkage for good shifter feel as opposed to lopping off the top of the stock design.

 

I have the TWM w/ the shift **** and I LOVE IT.....if your into a factory feeling short shifter get the TWM...it is similar to the S2K and the Miata...the pivot point is changed and the w/ the shift **** it helps the shifter slide alot easier into gear. Also, it doesn't get hot at all, the shift **** is all steel and coated so it doesn't rust or anything....I think it's the best short shifter kit on the market for the tc....IMO

 

I need to hear more opinions from people with the B&M shifter, since it lowers the shaft a half an inch and changes the pivot point.

 

TWM posted a pic in a earlier thread. and there is a difference in the pivot point. 1 the height is dropped lower. and also the pivot point is reduced. IMO twm made a good shifter and so did trd. if you have the money go TRD, and if you like the stock height with a short throw. but if you want the short height and short throw go TWM. most people here think that TWM is basically a stock shifter that has been chopped. not true. installation might be harder than TRD, but its at half the cost. so i hope that helps some.

 

yeah, I find it hard to believe that throws can be reduced by 35% just by dropping the ****. Plus, the descripton on TWMs site says it reduces throws AND drops the **** height. I'm liking it.