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Old Jan 10, 2008 | 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Guru
That is pretty heavy. A forged 18 inch wheel will weigh in at around 16-18 lbs. A cat one about 19-22 lbs.
thats not necessarily true. Aren't the stock 17s cast alloy? and their around 22 for 17s!
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forged is lighter then cast.


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Old Jan 10, 2008 | 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by nebster
forged is lighter then cast.


audiobahn ftw
1. First off, thats not even true. just because something is true the majority of the time, does not make it an absolute, like you seem to think.

Its not how the wheel is formed that determines the weight, its the design and the volume of metal. (duh).

you could have a cast wheel that is lighter than a forged wheel.

2. thats like saying 17s are lighter than 18s....which most of the time they are, but not in all cases.


ignorant narrow minded naive wannabee know-it-all midwestern hill-billy noob ricer kid trolls FTW!
Old Jan 10, 2008 | 07:29 PM
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Forging uses intense heat and pressure to transform a [solid} slug of alloy material into the final shape of a wheel. Forged aluminium is about 300 per cent stronger than cast aluminium, yet less material is needed to produce the same "cast alloy wheel", which results in a lighter product. Because of the basic limitations inherent in forging, most forged wheels are two or three piece units. In two-piece construction, a centre is forged and welded or bolted into a spun or stamped outer rim. In a three-piece wheel, the centre is bolted to an inner and an outer rim half. This stands as an advantage of being easily customisable for a variety of widths and offsets.

Casting is a relatively inexpensive way to produce a high-quality, fairly strong alloy wheel. There are two methods used. One, system is known as gravity casting... whereby the molten material is poured into a mold and allowed to cool. These molds are usually made by machining a piece of material on CNC machine equipments to produce a wheel that only requires minor finishing (like drilling or possibly trimming of some excess metal) to be considered complete. The other and better system used is the low pressure or negative pressure casting. Here instead of pouring the molten material into the mould, the molten alloy is drawn up into the mould using a high-pressure vacuum. This eliminates much of the trapped air found in gravity casting process, producing a stronger wheel that is less porous than a gravity-cast one.


so yes it does matter the amount of metal you use BUT because wheel manufactures aren't dumb they produce forged wheels with less metal because they're much stronger. this means that they're lighter. you could have a cast wheel that is lighter but it would bend like butter.
Old Jan 10, 2008 | 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by nebster
Forging uses intense heat and pressure to transform a [solid} slug of alloy material into the final shape of a wheel. Forged aluminium is about 300 per cent stronger than cast aluminium, yet less material is needed to produce the same "cast alloy wheel", which results in a lighter product. Because of the basic limitations inherent in forging, most forged wheels are two or three piece units. In two-piece construction, a centre is forged and welded or bolted into a spun or stamped outer rim. In a three-piece wheel, the centre is bolted to an inner and an outer rim half. This stands as an advantage of being easily customisable for a variety of widths and offsets.

Casting is a relatively inexpensive way to produce a high-quality, fairly strong alloy wheel. There are two methods used. One, system is known as gravity casting... whereby the molten material is poured into a mold and allowed to cool. These molds are usually made by machining a piece of material on CNC machine equipments to produce a wheel that only requires minor finishing (like drilling or possibly trimming of some excess metal) to be considered complete. The other and better system used is the low pressure or negative pressure casting. Here instead of pouring the molten material into the mould, the molten alloy is drawn up into the mould using a high-pressure vacuum. This eliminates much of the trapped air found in gravity casting process, producing a stronger wheel that is less porous than a gravity-cast one.


so yes it does matter the amount of metal you use BUT because wheel manufactures aren't dumb they produce forged wheels with less metal because they're much stronger. this means that they're lighter. you could have a cast wheel that is lighter but it would bend like butter.
WOW. i've never seen a longer post that added absolutely nothing to a discussion.

nice cut n paste skills yo. but why feel the need to post info that everyone already knows??? Your post did nothing to support your comment that "forged wheels are lighter than cast wheels"---which is retarded. only mag-reading noobs say dumb stuff like that. no one makes cast wheels that "bend like butter"

speaking of dumb noobs, how big is your ego that you need to have your own website (nebster.com), which actually isn't anything more than a pic of your regular looking tc with BLINGY RIMS YO. ITS THE MAD TYTE JDM RIMS YO! :D :D your just like every other noob ricer wannabe kid that got a tc so you could start your own website and act like you are a tuner. OMG!!!! hilarious.

and aweomse team solo (han solo?) site too. sweet "featured car" thats been the same for months now. wow, an AUTOMATIC IS300!!!!! whats even more, is that the kid openly admits that he is a spoiled a$$ pansy and someone BOUGHT THE CAR (yes, someone BOUGHT A LEXUS) for him simply for doing what he was supposed to be doing and graduating school. Then, he takes all his money from delivering pizzas and waiting tables to mod it out.

all you stereotypical midwestern suburban kids who finally found their niche after watching Fast N Furious crack me up... get some perspective kid.
Old Jan 10, 2008 | 08:20 PM
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yeah i did dumbass. read the last sentence. i copied and pasted the first part so you'd know how the ____ing wheels are made
Old Jan 10, 2008 | 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by nebster
yeah i did dumbass. read the last sentence. i copied and pasted the first part so you'd know how the flippin' wheels are made
lol, so once again, you just ASSUME that you know something that i don't.... :D

y don't u just tell the truth, and say "I didn't know the difference, so i googled it and came up with this answer, and i figured I post the info for those noobs who might now know."

kid- as i've tried to explain to you before, i've been in the import scene for about 8 years. I used to work at a shop where i SOLD WHEELS. eg. enkei, konig, etc... since we were discounttireco dealers. I'm WELL aware the difference between forged and cast wheels, and I'm also WELL aware that you could have a cast wheel that is lighter than a forged one. and vice versa.

keep backing off now that i've pwnd you... again.
Old Jan 10, 2008 | 08:35 PM
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*sigh* i know the difference you dumbass i am a mechanical engineering and have to know all the different manufacturing process. it was proved in the other thread that you didn't work there. *sigh*
Old Jan 10, 2008 | 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by nebster
*i am a mechanical engineering *sigh*
you lose. *sigh*
Old Jan 10, 2008 | 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by SePaTc
i'm 12 and i'm ___. *sigh*
hey man you said it not me
Old Jan 10, 2008 | 08:49 PM
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Old Jan 10, 2008 | 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by nebster
Originally Posted by SePaTc
i'm 12 and i'm ___. *sigh*
hey man you said it not me
ah, and once again the little baby devolves and resorts to name calling and insults. :D shocking......

btw: noob kids like you are whats wrong with online forums.
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yep i guess so.
Old Jan 10, 2008 | 09:06 PM
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I'm with Ben on this

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