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Old Oct 27, 2011 | 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by JimmyTC
definitely interesting. gonna give it a try. how dangerous are the gases? is it gonna smell bad inside the car?

35 ppm (0.0035%) Headache and dizziness within six to eight hours of constant exposure
100 ppm (0.01%) Slight headache in two to three hours
200 ppm (0.02%) Slight headache within two to three hours; loss of judgment
400 ppm (0.04%) Frontal headache within one to two hours
800 ppm (0.08%) Dizziness, nausea, and convulsions within 45 min; insensible within 2 hours
1,600 ppm (0.16%) Headache, tachycardia, dizziness, and nausea within 20 min; death in less than 2 hours
3,200 ppm (0.32%) Headache, dizziness and nausea in five to ten minutes. Death within 30 minutes.
6,400 ppm (0.64%) Headache and dizziness in one to two minutes. Convulsions, respiratory arrest, and death in less than 20 minutes.
12,800 ppm (1.28%) Unconsciousness after 2-3 breaths. Death in less than three minutes.

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Old Oct 27, 2011 | 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Rotz
35 ppm (0.0035%) Headache and dizziness within six to eight hours of constant exposure
100 ppm (0.01%) Slight headache in two to three hours
200 ppm (0.02%) Slight headache within two to three hours; loss of judgment
400 ppm (0.04%) Frontal headache within one to two hours
800 ppm (0.08%) Dizziness, nausea, and convulsions within 45 min; insensible within 2 hours
1,600 ppm (0.16%) Headache, tachycardia, dizziness, and nausea within 20 min; death in less than 2 hours
3,200 ppm (0.32%) Headache, dizziness and nausea in five to ten minutes. Death within 30 minutes.
6,400 ppm (0.64%) Headache and dizziness in one to two minutes. Convulsions, respiratory arrest, and death in less than 20 minutes.
12,800 ppm (1.28%) Unconsciousness after 2-3 breaths. Death in less than three minutes.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_monoxide_poisoning
hahaha i love how everyone uses wikipedia to prove a point even though it could have been anyone writing the post. i do believe it though since were talking about a space that will have a constant airflow... while driving a least ha I guess this just means he should only spend 4 to 5 hrs driving at a time if this "mod" is done
Old Oct 27, 2011 | 03:56 PM
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if this "mod" is done..especially on a large scale..i can full expect a news report on "CO2 Poisoning threatening the lives of Toyota Scion tC owners"
Old Oct 27, 2011 | 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by talt2008
hahaha i love how everyone uses wikipedia to prove a point even though it could have been anyone writing the post. i do believe it though since were talking about a space that will have a constant airflow... while driving a least ha I guess this just means he should only spend 4 to 5 hrs driving at a time if this "mod" is done
I'm not sure I follow. He asked if the gases were dangerous and I posted information showing that they are indeed dangerous.

And for the wiki haters here are 2 from Government websites.

http://www.ct.gov/demhs/lib/demhs/usr/sop/s-002_co.pdf

http://www.lni.wa.gov/Safety/Topics/...arbonMonoxide/
Old Oct 27, 2011 | 05:18 PM
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I don’t think it will smell bad, I looked today; the area of the Descendant exhaust where you would do this is very near the rear, under the cargo hatch, and about 10-12 inches rear of the rear seats.
I currently live in a state that has NO vehicle inspection what so ever. If people can ride around in V8 trucks with no pipes, and old Buicks with true exhaust leaks day after day, and be fine, (I see it daily) I seriously doubt there will be any negative effects. Co2 is what hurts you, and is basically caused when the engine does not burn all the gas in the camber. Which engine do you think burns cleaner and more efficient: a 1999 ford V8 truck with 100k+ miles, or a 2011+ Scion tC with less than 50k on it?
I’m still not saying it’s a great idea, what I am saying is, it is not as bad as some people are insinuating.

VVTinme, please keep the personal attacks to the yoursciontc forum where people just argue and fight; this is the Scionlife tC2 area, where we help each other and not belittle people for ideas they have.
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Old Oct 27, 2011 | 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Druidiron
I don’t think it will smell bad, I looked today; the area of the Descendant exhaust where you would do this is very near the rear, under the cargo hatch, and about 10-12 inches rear of the rear seats.
I currently live in a state that has NO vehicle inspection what so ever. If people can ride around in V8 trucks with no pipes, and old Buicks with true exhaust leaks day after day, and be fine, (I see it daily) I seriously doubt there will be any negative effects. Co2 is what hurts you, and is basically caused when the engine does not burn all the gas in the camber. Which engine do you think burns cleaner and more efficient: a 1999 ford V8 truck with 100k+ miles, or a 2011+ Scion tC with less than 50k on it?
I’m still not saying it’s a great idea, what I am saying is, it is not as bad as some people are insinuating.

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Old Oct 28, 2011 | 03:15 PM
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Well, the "washer" idea is a bad one. If you want loud and deep. Get the weapon R header and then add a large resonator on the exhaust. It should still be loud and deep... And you don't have to worry about safety of yourself or our planet.
Old Oct 28, 2011 | 03:41 PM
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Durp, I could be wrong on this, but I am 99% sure the header removes the catalytic convert, which is what "cleans" the exhaust gases. So if you are worried about the planet, that is NOT the way to go. The washers would be installed at the rear of the cat and resignator and wont remove any emissions equipment. Safety is the only concern.
Old Oct 28, 2011 | 03:54 PM
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exhaust leaks??? really??? you need 3 things for this it make a huge difference...1 sawzall, 2 welder with stainless steel wire instead of copper im asuming your exhaust is stainless, 3 depending how long your resonator is a 1 to 2 foot piece of 2.25in exhaust tubing...take off piece of exhaust with resonator (midpipe), cut the resonator out at both ends, slide 2.25 piece of exhaust tube in resonator and weld at both ends, finally weld midpipe back together and reinstall.
Old Oct 28, 2011 | 08:31 PM
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@Druidiron, you are correct but I was mainly providing a solution. I was basically stating that it would be a better alternative to an open exhaust leak. Haha I am in no way a tree hugger either. Just to get rid of any assumptions.
It was a simple joke sir.
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