So if I get TRD springs for my tC and then get it aligned at a shop a week after the install, the shop mechanic is going to tell me that he couldn't do a proper OEM spec alignment because the rear camber has issues?

Its a daily driver and its driven normally - will it even matter it the alignment is not perfect as OEM?

 

Yea, the rear camber will be out of spec. And especially because its a daily driver it matters. You'll get uneven tire wear in the rear and will go through them faster.

 

So then how does everybody who has TRD springs(or any other spring) on their tCs deal with this problem? (for example what did you do to fix it?)

 

Godspeed is in the process of producing some camber correction kits as we speak. There's also someone that made their own and someone else that rigged a 2006 Civic Si arm to work and hasn't had any problems. Me, I haven done anything because the tire wear isn't as bad as one would expect. Believe me I know about camber wear. I used to drive a civic with a 3.25" drop in the 90's. That was bad. Just my opinion so I know someone will oppose.

 

so its not extreme, it just makes the rear tires wear slightly faster than normal?
which means that even stock tC2s wear tires faster than most other cars right?

 

Yes…but just think about it. It takes energy to rub off tires. Even if it rubs off the tires at a very slow rate, it is still burning off your tires…tires cost money. If you don’t give $h!t that your tires could have lasted 50,000 miles instead of the 40,000 miles that you got, that’s your call. Now that energy to burn your tires came from someplace…the gas that put into your tank. That means you could have gotten 26-mi/gal instead of the 25-mi/gal that you are getting now. Your call again. And yes, there is a small performance (handling) loss, but most of you here won’t be able to feel that. All that put together is the reason why I built the A-RUCAs. Even at $2,000, I’ll get the performance increase for free for the life of the car…provided I keep it longer than 5 years.

 

so what did you do before you built your camber correction? You had TRD spring on before that right?

 

Another question: if the springs cause problems with rear camber, do the sway bars cause anything similar, or are those ok, and won't have any alignment issues?

 

For any suspension modifications you want to get an alignment. With my TRD springs, my car veers to the right all the time because I haven't got an alignment, but it's a gradual lean which I barely notice if I keep my hands on the wheel.

 

Yes I will make sure to get an alignment after getting the sways. but will they have the same camber issues as the springs do? will I be able to get a successful alignment as opposed to an unsuccessful one if I got the springs?
Thanks if you can help guys.

 

Basic assumptions: Drives 12,000 miles/ year
Keeps car for 5 years
Avg. cost per gallon = $4

Total miles in life = 12000*5 = 60,000 miles -> still have to buy tires @40,000 or @50,000. Cost is the same so not considered.

Lets do some dimensional analysis.
12000 mi /25 mi/gal = 480 gal * $4 = $1920 -> 5 years = $9600

12000 mi/yr / 26 mi/gal = 461.5 gal * $4 = $1846 -> 5 years = $9320

Cost of JJ ARUCA = $2,000
Money saved = $9600 - $9320 = $280

Doing a cost benefit analysis, they are not worth their price. You would have to keep the car for 30 years in order for the purchase to be justified. Added performance is the only valid argument here.

The average cost of an ARUCA is around $280. I'm excited to see what Godspeed has to offer because the current options are non-existent or outrageous.

 

I contacted Godspeed recently for a status update on the Rucas and they said it will take another two months as they are waiting for the "CNC" version to come.

 

Sweet, following this thread as i will be greatly interested in these A-RUCA from godspeed

 

Do the same cost/benefit analysis on the tC you bought and compare it to a $1000 Honda or Toyota beater car you could have bought – then tell me what your return on investment your tC brought you.

 

Just so everyone knows, I have retro-fitted a pair of Civic Si RUCA's to fit my tC, and you all can do it as well. You can see on the noskatehate22 build thread.

Also I have a prototype pair of RUCA's being sent to me by a reputable suspension parts company, so stay tuned everyone!! There IS light at the end of the tunnel!

 

yay! sweet! keep us posted plz

 

trd is not super bad the rear camber is actually helping your handling a little bit if you cant afford the tires from being lowered don't lower your car.

 

What's going on with this camber issue I want a kit or something idk about that shim??? Helpp lol

 

I have that same problem. I went to a Bob Summerel in my area and they said since you cant adjust the rear camber you have to buy the camber kit for the back. So they are ordering a kit and either I will put it on or they will include it in the alignment. But what I am saying is, go to a Tire and suspension shop and they will probably help you out!

 

I was just about to order TRD springs and just slap them on. I am going to back out because I HATE camber wear . I went through that with my 2001 Mustang GT. It was a daily driver and my tires went FAST. Maybe when the camber kit is available Ill buy everything all at once and do it right the first time