Don't jump to conclusions...that issue is for the 2nd generation tC...the alignment issue is there with the OEM springs and sway bar...if you install after market springs and/or sway bars, the alignment issue is still there...only more apparent.

Had you read those threads instead of jumped to conclusions that those threads were unrelated to your specific question, you would have found out that Toyota said in the TRD installation instructions that your alignment needs to be checked after installation of TRD springs or sway bars. Conscientious people here wanting to do it right, found out that the rear alignment was out of spec and could not be brought into spec after one of those installations…then others happened to get wheel alignments on their un-modified cars and had the same problem/issue.

 

ohhhh, I was not aware of that. Thanks for the help I guess I will just deal with the problem because I want those sway bars

 

I'm having a hard time understanding why changing rear swaybars will affect alignment??? You're not touching any of the suspension geometry, like dropping the car. You are only changing the sway bars to a bigger one. Ride height is exactly the same. Everything is exactly the same as stock except your sway bar is bigger.

Car manufacturers will often recommend doing an alignment just in case you did something wrong during installation (or to make more money). But changing sway bars should not affect alignment at all.

If the alignment was wrong to start with, changing swaybars will not change anything to it. If everything was in spec, then putting a rear swaybar will not affect that.

 

In a perfect world, you are correct...but look around, it's not perfect.

 

All I'm saying is that if an alignment cannot be done properly on the TC, it has nothing to do with swaybars because swaybars does not have any impact on alignment. All you links basically says so. To say the contrary is like saying that you tires changes alignment. It's mechanic 101.

 

You do like that perfect world…OK, picture this...


Your car gets manufactured. The springs have a tolerance. Your suspension components have a tolerance. There are probably 100 tolerances just on your suspension system alone. You car gets a wheel alignment – it has a tolerance. As long as it is within those tolerances, your car passes inspection and gets sold to you. It just happens to be right at the maximum point. Have you gotten your car up on the alignment rack? Do you know where your alignment is right now? Do you know at which extreme your alignment is at this point or is it at the ideal point? Now you install the sway bars. Your car has a slight lean to it…oh and BTW, when your car leans, it puts + camber to the side it leans to and – chamber to the other side. Now when you’ve installed your sway bars, it straightened the lean out…where was your alignment before we got started? Another scenario is that your car was bad to begin with (out of tolerance) and the hole locations for your sway bars were to the other extreme and installing the sway bars fixed your alignment. Leal world engineering 101… welcome to the real world. The real answer is that you just don't know until you put it up on the alignment rack!

 

It's not a question of perfect world or not. But sway bars does nothing to your alignment. Take them out if you want to and it will still have absolutely nothing to do with your alignment. People go autox by detaching their front swaybar, and then putting it back on after, there's no affect on alignment at all.

The bar is attached to an endlink which is a moveable part and the endlink is attached to the suspension arm, so it doesn't matter what suspension geometry you have, or what alignment you have it wouldn't change anything. The sway bar itself is not even touching your suspension. The transfer of force when turning has to go thru the endlink first and like I say, the endlink is a completely moveable part.

 

AFAIK they did not do an alignment on the car after they installed the sway bars. However, when visually inspecting the car the camber on both front and rear wheels seems to be even. There is no visible difference.

 

still do alignment, manual requires it

plus getting an alignment most of the time noticeably improves handling

maybe ur front end was misaligned from the time u purchased the car.....

find a place that does it for like $60 or have a special, well worth the money plus misaligned car accelerated tire wear

 

Quick question when adding sway bars do we need to upgrade the end links???

 

do thy even make end links for our car? or bushings? if they do plzzzzzzzzz send me a link or post in this post

 

No...