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Old Sep 20, 2006 | 05:59 AM
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i was tryin to clean my a/c filter
so i opened it and bam
theres no filter
theres only plastic frame...
am i supposed to have filter thingeee? right?
or its just like t hat???



i saw some post on dif forum that some dude was cleaning his a/c filter
and he that those filter thingee in that plastic frame.

sorry if it was a dumb question
Old Sep 20, 2006 | 06:48 AM
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just like that...the filter was not included...I never would have known myself until I saw about this diy filter almost a year ago...
Old Sep 20, 2006 | 06:53 AM
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not included!? what the hell
so i can also purchase the filter at the dealer?
Old Sep 20, 2006 | 06:58 AM
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I'm not sure... my tC has the location, but nothing inserted for it as well... people have made DIY filters for them with good results, but you do lost a bit of cooling flow... and that's why I think they left them out... better cooling without...
Old Sep 20, 2006 | 07:02 AM
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oh okay.,,,
cuz Toyota ist has the filter so i thought it would be the same for xAs...but guess not...


thanks anyway
Old Sep 20, 2006 | 07:50 AM
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If that is the filter inside your glove box it is a cabin air filter. You can buy one at Kragens for about $12. They fit the xA, xB, and Rav4. There are a few posts on making them. If you buy from Toyota they are over $30. Not sure what stores you have available in Guam--so you might want to look at the DIY section.
Old Sep 20, 2006 | 08:49 AM
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The cabin air filter is an optional extra just like floor mats. The dealer has 'em (overpriced at most dealers) or you can make one yourself - the DIY instructions are in the tech section here.

My xA and xB Both have cabin air filters - one is a genuine Toyota, the other is home made. (No, neither came with.)

See https://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=20753

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Old Sep 20, 2006 | 10:03 AM
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oh okay
thanks guyz.

i just thought there should be a filter.....
im gonna just do DIY then....
thanks
Old Sep 21, 2006 | 11:14 PM
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What?! No filters?! I must've been inhaling all kinds of dirt! Vengeance! So if I get my center arm rest mod, would I be able to include the filter as well from the dealer?
Old Sep 21, 2006 | 11:22 PM
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I bet you could get a dealer filter for a pretty penny... but doing it yourself for WAY less would be both fun and fullfilling.
Old Oct 2, 2006 | 12:53 PM
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So how do I convince my dad (he doesn't believe me) that there's no filter? I'm not sure if I don't have any filter as I haven't checked (don't know how) but by the sound of things, it looks like all xA don't have it and maybe that includes the southern cali xA's.
Old Oct 2, 2006 | 12:59 PM
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Won't void my warrenty will it?
Old Oct 2, 2006 | 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Taka
So how do I convince my dad (he doesn't believe me) that there's no filter? I'm not sure if I don't have any filter as I haven't checked (don't know how) but by the sound of things, it looks like all xA don't have it and maybe that includes the southern cali xA's.
It is a safe bet that you won't have one, unless your dealer is extremely thoughtful......

OK, time to get serious...
Just take all the crap out of the glove box, squeeze in at the back of the opened box and once you get it out, there is the white plastic you saw above. The spot for the filter will be at the top. You can even do this with your dad in the drivers seat because you don't have to worry about him being right that one is in there.
Old Oct 10, 2006 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by oldmanatee
Originally Posted by Taka
So how do I convince my dad (he doesn't believe me) that there's no filter? I'm not sure if I don't have any filter as I haven't checked (don't know how) but by the sound of things, it looks like all xA don't have it and maybe that includes the southern cali xA's.
It is a safe bet that you won't have one, unless your dealer is extremely thoughtful......

OK, time to get serious...
Just take all the crap out of the glove box, squeeze in at the back of the opened box and once you get it out, there is the white plastic you saw above. The spot for the filter will be at the top. You can even do this with your dad in the drivers seat because you don't have to worry about him being right that one is in there.
Ok I'll try that. So this missing filter, is it really vital (healthwise)? 'Cause I heard that there's another filter that's actually included in the xA.
Old Oct 10, 2006 | 01:18 PM
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It will cut down on the dust, but it's not a HEPA filter unless you make it one.
And the only air filter included on an xA is the one under the hood.

Good luck, it's really very easy.
Old Oct 13, 2006 | 03:05 AM
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Originally Posted by oldmanatee
It will cut down on the dust, but it's not a HEPA filter unless you make it one.
And the only air filter included on an xA is the one under the hood.

Good luck, it's really very easy.
So then it's fine if there's no filter there right? And this filter that's in the hood, what does it do?
Old Oct 13, 2006 | 01:40 PM
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The one under the hood is the one for the motor....:wnk:

You can run without the cabin filter, heck, if it was 100% necessary, it would be there from the factory. In fact, to my narrow mind, as soon as you open the door, you let the dust in you will be breathing, so, I put a filter in just to hold a small air freshener. To keep it out of the fan.
Old Oct 13, 2006 | 08:38 PM
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Right the air filter 'under the hood' is to keep the air the engine breathes cleaner, and the one 'behind the glove box' is to keep the air YOU breathe cleaner.

I can't speak for any one else's experience, but for me, I've only had to dust the inside of the car about 3 times in nearly two years, and the cabin air filter was loaded with pollen, dust, dead bugs, and a few pine needles in about six months. Let's put it this way: Whatever turned the filter dark grey, plus those obvious things I just mentioned, did NOT make it into the car (or me), and I'm happy about that.

Is it necessary? Nope! Does it actually help? Probably depends on your environment, but for me, yup!

YMMV, IANAL, etc. :D

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Old Oct 13, 2006 | 08:42 PM
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^^^^^
I did not know that my wife's Rav4 had one from the factory until I bought one for my xB. The one for the xB said it was for the Echo, Rav4 and xB. Sure enough--there was one behind the glove box of my Wife's car---and it was a mess--leafs and junk of all sorts. It is a cheap investment.
Old Oct 14, 2006 | 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by OldYeller
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I did not know that my wife's Rav4 had one from the factory until I bought one for my xB. The one for the xB said it was for the Echo, Rav4 and xB. Sure enough--there was one behind the glove box of my Wife's car---and it was a mess--leafs and junk of all sorts. It is a cheap investment.
thats a good reason to put one in there, a cheap investment!!!

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