Hi. I just purchased a 2006 Scion xA. I've had it for two weeks. In that time, it didn't turn right over when I started it on three occasions. I plan to contact the dealer of course, but wondered if anyone else has had this problem?

Thanks!
Pat

 

Hey - I just got mine today and its totally awesome. However one of the 3 times i started it i started it like any other car, and it didnt turn over right away. Im just assuming its a brand new engine (1 mile was on it) and its gunna take a lil warmin up and a little practice. Maybe im wrong but im pretty sure its norm

 

Hey - I just got mine today and its totally awesome. However one of the 3 times i started it i started it like any other car, and it didnt turn over right away. Im just assuming its a brand new engine (1 mile was on it) and its gunna take a lil warmin up and a little practice. Maybe im wrong but im pretty sure its norm

 

Well, I can appreciate new engine quirkiness, I guess, but all of my other NEW cars, including my 1988 MR2, NEVER stuttered when starting, they turned right over. I'm almost at 1000 miles, which is supposed to be the break-in period. I think if it hasn't gotten over the quirks shortly after that (which will only be a few days), it's going to the dealer.

Any problems with your radio? I get static on a lot of stations that I don't get static on when in other cars making the same commute. : )

Thanks!

 

ive got an 06 xA with just over 2k on it now. when i first got it i can think of about 3 occasions where it didnt turn over.... i attributed it to being a new engine too, it hasnt done it in a while, ill be calling the dealer if it does it again though, glad to see im not the only one

 

i had this problem when i had my 02 civic si....make sure you do the one click on the gas tank lid....if the gas tank didnt have the pressue to suck the fuel that will happen...atleast that was the problem with the si...not sure if the fuel system works the same way....however i did assume so since it tells you to turn until it clicks once.....anyways...thats my 2 cents...

jake mize
www.inkefx.com

 

I have noticed it also.
Only once or twice, but I am a little conserned, becuase that was the opening to the death dance that my '96 that this replaces.

 

I am having it checked out at the dealer next week, and will let you all know if anything good comes from the diagnostic. I am getting my gas from another station, and so far on this tank of gas (I'm down to 1/4 tank) it has only decided not turn right over on one occasion. In any case, I don't think NEW cars should behave this way. I am definitely turning the gas cap to one click, so that shouldn't be the problem, but I appreciated that tip. : )

 

I am still on the "Full Tank" that came with the car.

 

What do you mean by "won't turn over?" Do you mean the starter does not turn the engine or that the engine does not fire off instantly? If it does not spin the engine then yes something is wrong. If it just does not fire off the instant the engine starts to turn then that is probably just normal. If it spins for 5 or 10 seconds then something is probably wrong. With the electronic engine controls and fuel injection the engine should normally start by the time the engine has gone through maybe 3 revolutions almost every time. Newer engines are so good and reliable now that the key acts like an on/off switch. When it doesn't, even on the odd occasion, we think something is wrong. It is still an internal combustion engine and it takes compression, fuel, and ignition all happening at the same time to run. Those of us who remember chokes know what I am talking about.

 

I thought I'd bring this topic back up since I've been having some of the symptoms described above with the "hard starting". My xA would sometimes require cranking for more than 10 seconds before it either started, or I stopped cranking it, gave it a few seconds, and then tried again.

Well, yesterday, not only did it not start promptly, but after it did start, the Check Engine Light came on. I checked the codes on my new handy-dandy ScanGauge, and it displayed a P0335. This corresponds to a Crank Position Sensor "A" Circuit Malfunction. I brought it into the dealer who put in on a lift and checked the connections to the sensor and tried to replicate the problem without success. They're going to order me a new CKP sensor, but that won't be in for a few days. Sometimes there's "pending" codes in the ECU, so for those of you with hard starting issues, you may want to check to see if you have any pending.

Lastly, for the '06 xA's, you'll definitely need a code scanner that is a CAN-Bus (CANSF). The older ODBII protocol scanners will display a "Link Failed" message. I'll keep everyone posted if this resolves my starting issues.

- Al

 

good to know cause i've noticed it with mine as well i just thought it was the wimpy looking battery.

 

did the new sensor fix the problem cause my check engine light came on today same code. i'm pretty sure i don't remember exactly what they told me at autozone. i have 13k on my car must have been as soon as i hit that it came on. so its going to the dealer really soon. see what happens. just wondering if your new sensor fixed the issue. they should start up right away not take a lot of cranking its a 1.5l small engine. i barley turned a key on a chevy truck at work and it took right off starting i'm like my car should start like this.

 

dexter,

Unfortunately, the new CKP sensor did not solve my starting issues. I still find my car struggling to fire up sometimes. Usually when it's warmed up, the engine starts within a couple of cranks, but when it's cold it still requires a number of cranks to get going.

That being said, I think I may have found a workaround. I've noticed that if I depress the gas pedal about 1/4 to 1/3 while cranking, the engine starts up much faster. If this is truly the case, then my ISC (idle speed controller) may not be doing it's job and letting in enough air to start the car. The extremely small difference between the throttle plate and throttle body when closed is not enough air to start a car. The ISC must OPEN the pintle to allow air to bypass the throttle plate. I'm thinking that the ISC is still keeping the pintle somewhat closed, requiring me to tap the gas pedal a little to let more air in.

 

you can also try some fuel injector cleaner i read a service bulliten about it being an issue with some cars that the injectors where getting clogged for whatever reason.

 

Thanks for the suggestion, but if my injectors were clogged, I believe my mileage would be suffering and the engine would be stumbing. Once it's started, my engine runs like a top, and my mostly city mileage is about 33 mpg (36 highway). I usually put some Techron in my tank every 10-15 fillups anyway!