Z34RedSox

Just wondering, what else do you need to do you need to do if your going to get a celica engine in your xa? Can the tranny take? Are there any downsides, besides voiding your warranty which is a pretty big one, to swapping. Also I heard you need to turn the engine sideways or something to get it to fit. Any answers or just facts about the 2zz engine would be great.

hotbox05

the stock tranny will bolt up but it will not take the abuse very well. The main downside to me is the lack of torque this motor has. Go with the 5spd 1zz tranny.

Minsk99

This 1zz/2zz swap sounds intriguing. Does the 2zz have less torque then the 1zz or is it just less relative to the higher hp it has? I'd love to see dyno numbers for both engines stock. Blitz makes a sc for the 2zz. That would be pretty sick. Unfortunately the Blitz sc for the 2zz is over 5k

ELPrototypes

Hello,

The 1nz-fe trans WILL NOT bolt up to the 1zz or the 2zz. We already tried that. We have already test fitted 1zz/2zz, all a-series and s-series engines. Installing any of these engines will require frame cutting. S - series engines require serious body mods. Hope this helps.


ELP

hotbox05

God damn joe, I'm gonna kill him . Sorry for the mis-information. The 2zz acts like a honda vtec motor no torque till lift.

Z34RedSox

well, are there any other ways to get the xa to about 150. Do you think maybe a header and exhaust upgrade will help at all. What other possible things are there without buying a turbo or supercharger?

Ashe_WCM

Go for the whole port/polish/blueprint/balanced(and stronger pistons) and you may get up some. I'm planning on doing this with an Echo 1NZ hoping for 130+ from it. It's going to take a while tho.

Z34RedSox

can you explain that in laimens terms
i mean come on I can't even spell "laimens" right. lol

Z34RedSox

i've heard of port and polish but don't know what that or anything else means

TOAST3R

theres turbo's for the 1zz engine. its aroudn 4k i think

Ashe_WCM

Some good articles on What blueprinting and balancing are can be found Here, Here,
Here, and Here.

hotbox05

The ideal motor for these cars in my honest opinion would be a trd supercharged 1zz with header , true cold air intake , exhaust , head work and tuning. Think 180whp or so but with alot more torque and a better power curve than a 2zz.

TOAST3R

does trd make a supercharger for it tho?

TOAST3R

i just looked at the trd site, i guess they do make one. maybe ill have to do that to my MR2 instead of the engine swap to the 2zz

RD 1.8L Supercharger

Power Specifications:
• Peak torque is 145 lb.-ft. supercharged @ 4000 RPM
- vs. 125 lb.-ft. stock at 4200 RPM.
• Peak horsepower is 166 HP supercharged @ 6800 RPM
- vs. 130 HP @ 6000 RPM.
• Maximum HP gain @ 6750 RPM = +40HP
• Maximum torque gain @ 4000 RPM = +38 ft.lb.

windowtint

what about the use of an adapter plate?? main reason for asking is I was thinking in reverse - enabling someone to bolt in the 6spd to the 1ZNFE. Adapter plates have solved about every other motor/tranny problem I've encountered. I've seen Chevy SB's run through Porsche 930 tranny's, Jeeps into Powerglides, Fords into Chevys, Toyotas into Fords - you name it.

Biggest 'problem' i would think is making sure the computer would read everything accurately, or, would a remapping be needed.

showpaojoe

_____...I just told you what toyota and many others have told me...never sed I tried it

hotbox05

Oh don't get so testy. sorry master , lol. howd u get yer 3zz motor in there? I guess adapter plate is the way.

6spd tranny will require cutting about 2+ inches of frame.

windowtint

how do you know this? tried it? got any real world numbers? and WHAT FRAME? It's a unibody vehicle. There is no FRAME.

hotbox05

Piece of the SUBFRAME is what I mean. And this is from measuring. and joe's wisdom , I listened to him then measured and the 6spd is def longer and wider.

windowtint

Ohhh OK... so you DO know - that's good to know. So that's probably the biggest issue in conversion -

I'll have to get it up on a lift and see what needs to be trimmed and maybe reboxed to keep the strength (takes cojones to start hacking on the subframe assembly)