Oh yeah I'd go and get a spare front subframe and work with that. Yeah but If you use the 5spd 1zz tranny on the 1zz or 2zz it'll fit alot easier . The other issue is adding the extra front motor mount but supposedly that's not too hard .Some sort of engine mount kits are supposed to be out soon.

 

that would be great if a kit came out. id be one of the first on the list

 

2zz in an echo:

 

If it can fit an echo it most def can fit an xB , where's the damned motor mount kits? People will sell tons of those.

 

where did you get that pic of the echo? so, it is possible, but you need to cut off some stuff to fit the engine in then. right?

 

where did you get that pic of the echo? so, it is possible, but you need to cut off some stuff to fit the engine in then. right?

 

looks like one from another country or photochopped

 

i think thats the vitz. i remember someone posting that up a year ago. yes...the 2zz can fit, if you want to cut 4-6 inches of your frame depending on which tranny u want

 

i think the best way to get an extra 100 hp is to hitch up 100 horses ya know real horses an have them pull yer car around of course your emissions will go through the roof but natural fertlizer is the way to go

 

Got the picture from echodrivers.com. From what very little the poster had to say, it seems like Toyota commissioned this swap, but was very tight lipped about it. I have no idea where the picture was taken from.

 

im for sure that is a vitz and you are right...there is very little info if any about that swap

 

I'd rather take the 1zz so I could add FI if I wanted.

 

u can turbo the 2zz also, people are making around 250whp with the turbo gts celicas with basic bolt ons too. build up the 2zz and it will be better in the long run

 

Yes but how much will a built up 2zz setup cost? when you can easily run 7psi on a stock 1zz.I agree if I(had money and)were to go all out I would have a fully built FI 2zz

 

That car is an early Yaris. The 2ZZ swap was done in 2002 by Activa Engineering in Europe... that company has since dissapeared. Mods included cut up strut towers, frame rails and such... banged out firewall... the intake is nearly hitting the rad support, and the downpipe is riding the firwall in the back. Ain't no turbo kit gonna fit on that either, there's just no room.

185 reliable HP with a 6 speed tranny is very nice...

 

The thing about a 2zz is that that motor is a complete dog before lift hits. and it's only 180hp, normally.With these cars the biggest fitment problem would be the 6spd trans , you could however use the 5spd 1zz tranny with either 1zz or 2zz motor.

 

yea...its power band is like a honda's vtec. when it hits, it hits hard. and yea...that 6spd is huge. 6" of cutting..seems a little too radical for a street car. although it can be done

 

With the 2zz in the engine bay... tranny and everything... would the shocks/springs be upgraded to something beefier?? How about all that weight shift? Lighter radiator? Carbon fiber hood/panels? Relocated trunk battery? More power=More speed=More stopping power? Big brakes? I like the idea of the motor swap... just want to be prepared for problems that I might not see until afterwards.

 

yes, the suspension would have to upgraded. i would go with full coilovers with adjustable spring rate. a new radiator would be good, preferably a half size one. cf parts would be up to you, but it would help with the weight distribution. big brakes...they would be helpful. but keep in mind big doesnt always mean better.

 

jdm 1zz = 160hp