In part, you are correct. I have tested this back and forth on the dyno with my s2000. Adding mods together does not equate to a summation of their parts. Which is why some parts work better with others.

What is true though, is that all the testing all the manufacturers have done are with the ____ty stock midpipe. I am sure replacing the midpipe alone will yield 3-5 WHP regardless of what other mods are on the car acorss the RPM band

 

Really?? wow STYLIS you should start selling mid pipes!!

 

I wana Fluxcompasitor on mine, does anyone make thoes?

 

Ya - and when that baby hits 88 MPH we're going to see some serious ____!

 

For sure!!! Marty McFly better watch his skateboard hovering, De Lorien Flyin' Hynie!!!

 

Just got off the phone with DC sports again. here's the latest..

Headers will be available mid Jan. Suggested retail price for them is 329.. I'm already working on a group buy for that. But that's top secret stuff..Dyno numbers were 5-6 WHP gain.

They also just released the Axel back exhaust for the xB and xA. Dyno'd a 4.8 WHP gain. The power difference between a full cat back and axel was VERY SMALL, i'm guessing around .2-.5 whp so that's the reason why everyone is doing a axel back. Thy only company as of right now that is releasing a full cat back is injen. MSRP on the cat back is 389 + tax. I can get these right now for 329 +shipping.

And thats it until later this month..lol

 

injen already released full cat-back??
never heard of it.....

im interested in those headers...

 

Injens wasnt released yet. Soon...

 

but u can get it right now???
:?:

 

Sorry dood, but that is ABOSULUTELY INCORRECT. The only reason they are not offering a cat back system is because of the design of the mid-pipe. The car is OBDII which means you cannot legally alter the emissions system of the car. The midpipe on the scions are all one piece housing the catalytic converter in them.

So if they told you that the reason they didnt go cat back was because they didnt see any gains tell them to shove it, because its total crap.

 

There is no need to flame the messenger. I simply got off the phone and relayed the entire messege he told me. If you wanna share you information, be my guest. Just don't come at me like I'm the one that designed and manufactured it.


BBted

I can get the DC axel back.

 

There is no need to flame the messenger. I simply got off the phone and relayed the entire messege he told me. If you wanna share you information, be my guest. Just don't come at me like I'm the one that designed and manufactured it.


BBted

I can get the DC axel back.[/quote]

Thats why i hate the computer. You cant see facial expressions or hear the tone of voice. Im sorry if you took that the wrong way brutha, i in no way meant it in an offensive way. I just hate when people pass on incorrect info. I know it wasnt you that was saying the info, so if anything, im flaming him

 

ALright... everyone one call DC and Flame him!!!

 

Then how can somebody have a "Manifold-Back" System, I'm assuming the means Exhaust manifold(Header) out the back have been changed or inlarged?

Also, Is it possible to run a test pipe (NO Cat.)?*

(Disclaimer= for racing/off-road purposes)<-My C.Y.A.

Dave

 

Manifold back is just like it says..manifold back. it replaces everything...and yes you can swap out the cat and make a test pipe. or bigger cat or whatever.

 

What about the O2 sensor? or is the bung on the Exhaust Manifold or Header?

cuz I'd like to do this system:
DC Sports Header
2.5" Custom midpipe w/ test pipe
DC Sport Muffler.

What other conciderations should be taken?

Thanks,
Dave

 

The axel back..has a flange that connects to the stock mid pipe at the same size... so lets the the connector is 1 1/2 inch. and the actual piping is 2 1/2 or whatever. if you get a mid pipe you still have a restriction there... typically the o2 bung is after the cat. i havent seen the underside of the pipe. STYLIS should know. If you're going to have a cust mid pipe, you better off doing a complete manifold back. TRUST ME on that. Ask stylis he makes the most power...lol

 

No Header? just manifold back? what size piping?

Thanks for the info, I'm aiming for 110whp

 

Manifold back...is from the manifold back. Stock header..or if you wish aftermarket.

 

Stock Header?? Exhaust Manifold?? They're one in the same, right??

What size tubing 2.0" or 2.5"??

Dave