The 04 and the 05 are different?? Do you have the paperwork?

 

they are the same for 04 and 05 and they are CARB approved for both the XB and XA now they were pending for a while but have full CARB badging on them now

 

Where is the documentation listed? I would really like to have a copy on file. :D

 

the k&n intake for xa and xb gets about the same horsepower. theyre marketing the 8hp and it's a flat out lie.

 

I installed a K&N last weekend and felt a bit of difference. I has more power in the 3-5k range. But when I really noticed it was when we had a cool down one evening and it was getting some cool air. I got mine for 150 bucks so it is worth it for me. I also have a 05' and so far no problems. It did solve my awful vibration from my stock air box. Even my dash stopped buzzing. So that is worth the money alone!

 

Sorry.. doesn't prove anything. You need to flow test these intakes. Dyno results vary too much between runs and the dyno has a 5% error rate of its own.
Have the stock unit measured for flow vs AM.. Only way to show differences between units

 

8hp!?!

 

dude you really are just trying to be a a**hole arnt you? i understand your prob. to proud to admit your wrong.....how are you gonna argue that a smooth mandrel bent pipe with essentially one 90* bend that is larger in diamiter wont flow better than a tiny plastic tube with so many ripples and also does a loop from the air box to the TB.....dude get off it you change your point when someone else proves you wrong first it was " it wont flow any more than the stock intake" then it was" the TB is too small" you know damn well that if you flow the stock with all OEM parts including the OEM paper filter VS. a K&N cold air itll blow the stock unit away so why argue it?....also by you error margin where do you get this 5% error fact from id like to know or see where this is stated by the dyno manu. but even then saying the intake dynod made 6hp ...minus the 5% error possiblity it would still be 5.7hp......STILL A INPROVMENT!

 

I think he means 5% margin of error of the total HP registered on the dyno, meaning it could be reading anywhere from 2.5% higher to 2.5% lower than what you actually have.

Still, numbers don't always tell the whole story, and how can what devious described NOT work better, on at least some level?

 

http://arb.ca.gov/msprog/aftermkt/de...o/D-269-30.pdf

 

i tried to understand that.........but all i got was a headache

 

The way I read it is that use of the K & N will not effect emissions (just emmissions). But if it's found that it does, the hammer of Thor will be used!

 

ok all those pages for just that? j/k

 

Get the Typhoon. I trust K&N far more than these other makes like Injen etc.

As for these guys, why do they care how you spend YOUR money.

 

Honestly lets think really all of these really do suck in hot air so why not call it
"Hot Air Intake" it makes it sound so sultry and exciting

 

short ram intakes suck more hot air than CAI

 

if 90% of the intakes suck air from behind the bumper outside of the engine compartment where are u guys getting the hot air?

 

The K & N short ram pulls air from behind and below the left fog light. The AEM pulls air from roughly the same area but thew air winds through significantly more pipe that is wound next to the engine. Wonder which air is actually cooler?

 

k&n doesnt make a short ram.....short ram would place it the filter under the hood sucking in all the nice warm air....by placing it in the fender it is esentially getting a cold air charge by being shielded away from engine heat.....i know that in the xa the filter is right behind the fendewell shroud way lower to the ground and i know d*mn well thats colder air than in the engine bay....im thinking of getting a bypass and installing it getting a slight bit more distance on it

 

well fed ex just dilivered my intake......lets see how everything goes......thanks to all for their input and debates!