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Old Feb 1, 2006 | 01:30 AM
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Old Feb 1, 2006 | 02:46 AM
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instead of makin the runners curve how about a straight out design... like the mugen intake for the civics and preludes???
Old Feb 1, 2006 | 02:48 AM
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^^ just a thought
Old Feb 1, 2006 | 04:39 AM
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That's what I was thinking, but...

1. You lose torque
2. I think they are trying to make it with the throttle body in the stock location as to allow for all the aftermarket CAI out there.

MMW...please correct me if I'm wrong here?
Old Feb 1, 2006 | 06:10 PM
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i thought about that after i posted it too... i dunno
Old Feb 1, 2006 | 07:46 PM
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were you thinking about this type of thing??

Old Feb 1, 2006 | 07:49 PM
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you would have to get a personlaized plate that said "ovrkill" or "h8 gnslo"
Old Feb 1, 2006 | 08:16 PM
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FINALLY!!, gosh i have been waiting for someone to finally make one for us, thank you
Old Feb 1, 2006 | 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by TXboxdriver
were you thinking about this type of thing??

OMG!
Why is it so... soo.... BIG?
Old Feb 2, 2006 | 02:14 AM
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sorta without the 8 million extensions on it yeah... i mean just the first set of runner would be fine... not 4 sets??? wtf... but yeah thats what i was talkin about
Old Feb 2, 2006 | 02:16 AM
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and the reason it is so big on that honda motor is so the fuel is atomized before it hits the chamber... if you note the injectors right at the start of the runners...
Old Feb 2, 2006 | 03:52 AM
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Old Feb 2, 2006 | 02:22 PM
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hmmm.... i would like to see the dyno before and after the mods to this product...
Old Feb 2, 2006 | 03:35 PM
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some thing like this

http://www.allpar.com/mopar/sonoramic.html

if you want your maximum boost at the middle range of engine operation, the tubes have to be longer for the wave to take more time to get out and back in sync with a intake valve opening to give maximum boost at 2800 rpm. If you want that engine to scream at 5000-5500 rpm, the passages have to be shorter as you want that wave to get out and come back quicker
Old Feb 3, 2006 | 03:25 AM
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^ thats almost like what I was sayin
Old Feb 3, 2006 | 05:00 AM
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What they need is an infinitely variable length runner system. . . I know they have variable length intakes, but I'm not sure which parts are being adjusted on those systems
Old Feb 3, 2006 | 05:20 AM
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^^^ Like the variable cylinder height SAAB came up with a few years back that GM tossed? It would take some engineering, but possible! Back in my karting days, we had ajustible exaust pipes for tuning high and low end power...
Old Feb 3, 2006 | 09:11 AM
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Why not make an intake that looks like stock but doesn't have the internal baffles? It will flow more freely, look nicer, and still use the intake systems in the market. OR create an intake that looks like stock but has longer runners, The 1NZ has torque, might as well build up on that, with some good 4-2-1 headers like you guys made this thing will have one thing Honda doesnt TORQUE!
Old Feb 3, 2006 | 12:59 PM
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I would love to know what torque numbers MMW got from that intake. It may have lost some on the mid and high end, but I would think that you could get some of that back with mid-high mods like headers and more free flowing exhaust.
Old Feb 7, 2006 | 05:10 PM
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i wonder what the status is now..... i expected to be ordering it soon

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