We want to start offering more parts for you xb/xa guys. The problem is we don't know which one to get so we are going to let you guys decide.

Please fill out the poll.

-zpi

 

i voted xB, but in reality i want you to not buy one, and just sponsor me

i have a decent good resume if you'd be interested

if you do get a project car though, in all reality go xB. seems to be more of a cult following rather than xA. theres tons that mod the xA, but i think even more so with the xB. there would be nothing like seeing a 13 sec. 1/4 mile xB

 

I don't know what you guys expect from a poll. . . all xB owners will vote xB, and all xA owners will vote xA. . .

If you want an honest opinion, there are pros and cons to both. The xA is lighter, and would be the obvious choice on those terms. . . but, space is limited in the xA engine bay, thus mods are difficult. There are some FI xA's out, but man, it's a tight squeeze. The xB allows a little more room to work with. . . but then again, for all out performance, the xB is a little more aerodynamically challenged than the xA. . .

Pros and cons to both. But they both have the same engine, and basically the same suspension, so. . .

 

This is exactly what we wanted. The way we look at it the more xb/xa owners that vote will more than likely modify there cars. This in turn is which vehicle we whould focus on to make parts for, as you stated most parts will be universal to both but some will be vehicle specific.

Thanks

-zpi

 

They are very similar in weight, AND aerodynamics despite the look. Weight difference is about 50lbs, and the drag coefficient is very similar. The xA and xB also have almost the same exact engine bay. The xA and xB kits can be made universally, and even the ECHO should be able to use the same kit if built properly. The only charge pipe that really needs to be different is the one that contours around the windshield washer fluid res.

 

As a tC owner, I chose the xA. Why? Because there are many xBs out there, both project and personal cars, everyone knows what can be done with them now and alot of them are just duplicates of each other save the wheels and color.

Not many people upgrade their xAs as much as many xBs have, it'll be cool to see a company use an xA as a project car as it's more rare than the beloved box.

 

WHAT? Have you ever been under the hood of an xA vs an xB? NOT EVEN CLOSE!
I did check on the weight, and you're right on that one. . . not a huge difference. Are you sure about cd? Man, I'll take your word for it, but that makes no sense to me. I don't know how they pulled that off! Between the steep windshield and the sharp hatch angle. . .

 

In terms of sales, there's still a high demand for performance parts (pretty much applicable to both cars, which is even better for you guys). I'd keep in mind that Scion is a value brand, and that price plays a big role. and designing something that would fit both cars would cut costs and increase your market. In terms of sheer volume and sales, I can confidently say that the xB outdoes the xA, both in modding and sheer numbers, as the xB's sell like hotcakes. Also keep in mind that performance mods may be applicable to echo's as well, not to mention some Japanese models (Vitz, Vios, and a couple others)

 

Whichever car you choose for your 'racing' project, please don't stop at 150hp and call it a day! It's a bit sad for us xA an xB owners knowing that our cars have yet to pass the 200hp barrier, or better known as the weak internal barrier

Seriously speaking, there is a pretty good market for aftermarket engine internals that has been left untapped for quite a while. If you can produce high quality internals (especially rods!) it should be swappable between all the 1NZ-FE platforms which will drastically increase your market.

The way I see it, fixing that weak link in our engine will open a whole new level of potential in our mini powerplant. A better modding platform = more consumers.

Build it and they will come!

 

first off i 100% agree with m-flo.

second, i think either one would be a fantastic choice. the engines are the same so it doesnt really matter as far as that goes. as a future xB owner (friday ) im FANATICAL about xB's but theres soooo many of them!!! how many truly custom xA's are there? i say go for the xA and make us proud/jealous

 

In terms of firewall clearance, and useful space with charge piping they are nearly exact.

 

I think he mean general under hood room cuz xA's are pretty tight anywhere further forward than about mid motor.

 

I voted xB... dunno why, just did...

 

I drive a TC, but I say XA. Appearance wise I think the XA looks 10X better than the XB, so it would definitely come out to be a nicer car over all. The Xa also is a bit lighter and slightly more aerodynamic. Go XA, i would love to see that.