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Originally Posted by RTon20s
It has nothing to do with being a non-believer. It has everything to do with being a realist. Some people choose to follow individuals or companies with blind faith. Many do so with absolutely no basis in reality. I don't.
ZPI made one dyno run with a prototype car who's turbo set up has nothing in common with their production kit. Not to mention the fact that dyno runs can be manipulated. I'm not accusing ZPI of doing this, but fact is companies do it all the time. Environmental conditions and dyno setup can have a great affect on the results of a dyno run.
And to Fusion, I can't wait to see the numbers from your dyno run. For yours, and everyone's sake I hope you put down 180+ hp to the wheels. I really do hope to see that. I don't care who is able to get big numbers out of the xB, as long as someone is pursuing it. Where it is ZPI, Greddy, Race Precision, HKS, Turbo Toyotas, or some guy in his garage some where. I give them all respect for trying to push the envelope of what people think the xB is capable of.
But for now, the fact remains there are NO dyno numbers for the kit that ZPI plans to sell. And until I see some cold hard facts, I am not willing to follow the stuff floating around these forums hook, line and sinker.
ZPI made one dyno run with a prototype car who's turbo set up has nothing in common with their production kit. Not to mention the fact that dyno runs can be manipulated. I'm not accusing ZPI of doing this, but fact is companies do it all the time. Environmental conditions and dyno setup can have a great affect on the results of a dyno run.
And to Fusion, I can't wait to see the numbers from your dyno run. For yours, and everyone's sake I hope you put down 180+ hp to the wheels. I really do hope to see that. I don't care who is able to get big numbers out of the xB, as long as someone is pursuing it. Where it is ZPI, Greddy, Race Precision, HKS, Turbo Toyotas, or some guy in his garage some where. I give them all respect for trying to push the envelope of what people think the xB is capable of.
But for now, the fact remains there are NO dyno numbers for the kit that ZPI plans to sell. And until I see some cold hard facts, I am not willing to follow the stuff floating around these forums hook, line and sinker.
Well, you can just sit there and push 100hp at the crank and be happy with that then... 
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Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Well, you can just sit there and push 100hp at the crank and be happy with that then... And yes, I am happier pushing 100hp to the crank than dropping 3 large on a turbo kit that has no proof of what it is capable of. That is... if I ever received the kit at all.
I hope ZPI keeps up development on their kit. I hope they do new dyno runs. I hope they do put down consistent 180hp passes. I hope they have xBs all over the country embarrassing much "faster" cars. Right now, none of that is happening. And as stated before, I am not one to follow on blind faith.
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Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Well, you can just sit there and push 100hp at the crank and be happy with that then... And yes, I am happier pushing 100hp to the crank than dropping 3 large on a turbo kit that has no proof of what it is capable of. That is... if I ever received the kit at all.
I hope ZPI keeps up development on their kit. I hope they do new dyno runs. I hope they do put down consistent 180hp passes. I hope they have xBs all over the country embarrassing much "faster" cars. Right now, none of that is happening. And as stated before, I am not one to follow on blind faith.
Oh brother, your one of THOSE dudes....guess I'll just hold my replies, as they would be futile.I mean come on....why should we give ZPI any clout when it comes to the xB right. I mean besides, it's not like they have made tC's any faster right...
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rhythmnsmoke Posted: 1/5/07 7:54PM Post subject:
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I'm curious to know that too. Tranny cooler? If so, what brand.
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i meant how did he keep the transmission from going, not the motor.
i meant how did he keep the transmission from going, not the motor.
I'm curious to know that too. Tranny cooler? If so, what brand.
yea he had a tranny cooler but what kind you would have to ask Tony for that one
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Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Oh brother, your one of THOSE dudes....guess I'll just hold my replies, as they would be futile.I mean come on....why should we give ZPI any clout when it comes to the xB right. I mean besides, it's not like they have made tC's any faster right...
And why shouldn't they be given any clout? How about empty promises and questionable claims. I will leave it at that.
I will say that I hold high hopes for what ZPI may eventually be able to do. They just aren't doing it today.
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Originally Posted by RTon20s
Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Oh brother, your one of THOSE dudes....guess I'll just hold my replies, as they would be futile.I mean come on....why should we give ZPI any clout when it comes to the xB right. I mean besides, it's not like they have made tC's any faster right...
And why shouldn't they be given any clout? How about empty promises and questionable claims. I will leave it at that.
I will say that I hold high hopes for what ZPI may eventually be able to do. They just aren't doing it today.
ill race you for pinks....
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Originally Posted by RTon20s
Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Oh brother, your one of THOSE dudes....guess I'll just hold my replies, as they would be futile.I mean come on....why should we give ZPI any clout when it comes to the xB right. I mean besides, it's not like they have made tC's any faster right...
And why shouldn't they be given any clout? How about empty promises and questionable claims. I will leave it at that.
I will say that I hold high hopes for what ZPI may eventually be able to do. They just aren't doing it today.
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Originally Posted by fusionscion
ill race you for pinks....
Or we can race after you get it back. You'll have to excuse me if I choose a vehicle besides my wifes little commuter auto xB though.
I stand by my statements. When I start seeing real dyno runs of the production kit, as well as kits being shipped, you will see that I am more than fair with ZPI.
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I thought you were running the 2nd or 3rd prototype??? Your kit may have the production components, but it was made specifically for you, prior to the mass production of the kit. Don't get me wrong, like I said, I am interested in thier kit. I just need to hear from someone that has a mass produced kit that was shipped to them pre-tuned. If I should ever order one, I want to know how it will perform straight out-of-the-box with the pre-tuned E-mangage. Please correct me if my info/thoughts were wrong.
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KllrB Posted: 1/9/07 12:52AM Post subject:
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I thought you were running the 2nd or 3rd prototype??? Your kit may have the production components, but it was made specifically for you, prior to the mass production of the kit. Don't get me wrong, like I said, I am interested in thier kit. I just need to hear from someone that has a mass produced kit that was shipped to them pre-tuned. If I should ever order one, I want to know how it will perform straight out-of-the-box with the pre-tuned E-mangage. Please correct me if my info/thoughts were wrong.
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I thought you were running the 2nd or 3rd prototype??? Your kit may have the production components, but it was made specifically for you, prior to the mass production of the kit. Don't get me wrong, like I said, I am interested in thier kit. I just need to hear from someone that has a mass produced kit that was shipped to them pre-tuned. If I should ever order one, I want to know how it will perform straight out-of-the-box with the pre-tuned E-mangage. Please correct me if my info/thoughts were wrong.
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as far as i know my kit was production... i just have an adapter from the piping to extend the wastegate out.. and of course a custom tune and a 9psi spring..
i understand what everybody is saying..i would be in the same place still if i didnt get a sponsored price on the kit..
i understand what everybody is saying..i would be in the same place still if i didnt get a sponsored price on the kit..
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Originally Posted by fusionscion
as far as i know my kit was production... i just have an adapter from the piping to extend the wastegate out.. and of course a custom tune and a 9psi spring..
i understand what everybody is saying..i would be in the same place still if i didnt get a sponsored price on the kit..
i understand what everybody is saying..i would be in the same place still if i didnt get a sponsored price on the kit..
BTW, to the question asked a while ago blitz atf cooler.
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i would love to race you.... when an where? lol my car is still in the shop being worked on... if u wanna make the drive to kentucky, we can put down some runs there... let me know..
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Originally Posted by fusionscion
as far as i know my kit was production... i just have an adapter from the piping to extend the wastegate out.. and of course a custom tune and a 9psi spring..
i understand what everybody is saying..i would be in the same place still if i didnt get a sponsored price on the kit..
i understand what everybody is saying..i would be in the same place still if i didnt get a sponsored price on the kit..
BTW, to the question asked a while ago blitz atf cooler.