I am one step closer to closing in on the tsi, kit w/o the ems. I know about the fuel pump, injectors, fuel rail, fuel filter, return fuel line, all the monitoring guages, but am confused on which EMS to go with. What exactly will the E-Manage do? Does it only do the job of fuel? Does the E-Manage do both fuel and engine managment? Besides a wideband 02, do i need any other form of EMS. This will be a sucessfull instal, by a professional shop and the goal is to run no more than 6psi safely. I have even considered the Koyo upgrade as far as a radiator. Help me clarify? Lastly will the TSI FMIC be visible on the Xa? The more sleeper the better.

 

the xb has a turbo kit from greddy right? since the xb and xA run on the same engine code...I could use that kit right? aside from the intake right?

 

greedy setup is a.w.o.l(absent w/o leave) Good luck finding one. I belive that i cost to much to offer to the public so the idea was put on the back burner

 

Greddy will be releasing both the turbo and supercharger setups in January 2006. Both are working and have been in production for the past month or 2. If anyone is interested, we are an authorized Greddy Distributor. Feel free to call or email!

-Steve

 

Hey Steve...any word from F5 showing any interest yet??

 

I got a blitz s/c kit, but it came with a fuel controller for the 2nz-fe, anyone know if I could use that one anyway.
If thats a really bad Idea I think I want to go with TurboXS Dtec-fc for fuel management.
I dont think I want to run a return line, anyone know where I can get the in tank FPR that Dave is running?

 

Is this thread still alive? Has anyone noticed that Turbo kits. bla bla is now offering the emanage, injectors as a second option for ems? I am starting to warm up to this kit a little more. For those who have run this kit does that second option plus (out of pocket fuel pump, fuel rail, return line, radiator upgrade... sound like a better than first look glance?

 

I recently bought an xB with a prototype custom turbo installed. Got it for $13000. I posted some pics on a different forum and somebody saw it and told me that there was a post on that system on this forum and that alot of people criticized it because it didn't look professional. It still doesn't look professional, but it gets the job done. I'm not into showing my car, I just want a bit more performance than the stock. The original link to the forum was here: https://www.scionlife.com/forums/vie...ht=turbo++pics

And here is my post on a different forum: http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/t110362.html

So far, I've re-added a catalytic convertor that was removed, but was still having problems with alot of carbon soot particles on the back of my xB. And when I dynoed the car, it looked like the air-fuel ratio was too low which told me I was running rich. The car came with an Apexi SAFC2 installed and after reading the manual I put the settings from 30-40% lower to see if I can trick the ECU into giving me less fuel...with the hopes of minimizing the carbon particles. I was able to also modify the settings for the Deceleration Air Upper Limit because at times when I came to a stop the engine would die on me which would be really annoying...anyway, it seems to have done the trick.

I think I will have to contact the previous owner to see if they can tell me exactly everything that was installed so I can see what needs to be upgraded or added to make the turbo function optimally.

Does anyone on here also have a dyno chart they can upload, I want to see how it looks like compared to mine.

 

get in touch with some of the guys that have allready gone F/I (do a search for turbo) It sounds like you have the TSI kit, but what do i know.

 

Naa...hes got the one off prototype that was done out in texas...it was a top mount turbo...I much rather would have had a top mount than how it was stuffed between my firewall...I burnt up some of that fabric that covers the firewall with my turbo

 

wow, when will there be quality turbo kit, or rather ems. Anyone have insight on AEM's. All i know is that its around $1,5000.

 

Just had the TSI Turbo kit installed by AirPort Toyota in Vandallia Ohio. The install took about four days and there were a few tuning problems, but they were all worked out. The fun factor drive the XB has gone way up. Very little turbo lag, but has a slight hesitation when cold. I hope to get it on a dyno to get a proper tune. If you know of a dyno in the Dayton Oh area please drop me a line. I would recommend this kit and Air Port Toyota for the install
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I also Had a Borlo exhaust sytem installed, The twin pipes look great sticking out the rear and sounds great. Next step is install the projection lights and the leather seats.

 

The Turbo has been installed for a couple of weeks now, and here is an update. 90% of the time the system works great, and what a blast smoking Civics, Stratus, Corollas and TCs. But 10% of the time the system gets confused and I get a major bog during accelaration. The system works best when in the higher gears and it will pull hard. Problems occur when coming up thru the gears. I had passed on to the dealership (Airport Toyota) that the eManage system was the way to go and they led me to believe that was what they were installing. They installed the option 1 fuel managemwnt system which has problem with the XB ECU. So I am going to purchase the eManage and the larger injectors and have someone else install, plus have it tuned on a Dyno in Cincinnati. I will update in the next couple of weeks.

Even though there are problems, the turbo makes the XB so much more fun to drive.

 

Post some dyno charts when you get it tuned.

 

well, I am one of the latest to join the FI club here. I installed a Greddy turbo kit in my XB about 2 weeks ago. Everything seems fine and I was very happy with the amount of torque this little engine gained. Here are a few downsides to going turbo from my experience.

#1 the greddy kit does NOT come with instructions. It comes with Emanage, but no way to monitor or change the settings

#2 have a new clutch ready. The stock one will slip for SURE

#3 After continuous driving you will have a check engine light, VSC, and traction control light. All I did to get rid of that is pull disconnect the battery and reset the ECU.

If you are going to turbo charge, be sure to have clutch and bov ready because even though the Greddy kit is only 6psi of boost, youll get quite a bit of surge. The good thing is FI is not out of many peoples reach financially. You can go turbo safely for under $2500 easily.

 

Here is a chart of my XB turbo from today. Lots of TQ. THe hp is not what I expect it to be but I am not too happy with the Emanage programming.

 

That curve is really jotty

 

First of all, I want to thank you for starting this thread. As our cars are still so new, any information certainly helps us all. My turbo kit has been in my car for over a month now and there are a few issues, some resolved and some others not, that I have been faced with. The car ran great for about a week. While taking a 4 hour drive/trip to visit some friends, my CEL, VSD, and TRAC like went on. The car ran normal and I was in the middle of nowhere so I continued. That happened on a Friday night. The next monday, I came to work and decided to put my car on the dyno to see what was going on. Oh, before I get into that, I completely agree that the turbo going there by the firewall is kinda stupid. The heat shield provided with the Greddy kit is OK< but I had to add some more heat insulation to stop the firewall material from drying. Anyways, back to the story. I dynoed my car and it ran very lean. At 5-6psi my car would run at 13.5:1 AFR at WOT past 4k rpm. The Emanage from greddy does not have air flow corrections to increase the amount of fuel going to the engine. What they did was just increase the duty cycle past 20-30% of throttle/rpm. I increased those parameters and the car ran a little better. Occassionally at light throttle the car would hesitate very badly. I am still not sure what that is. I am starting to guess that it is just the toyota ecu that controls the vvti. I just recently turbod an Elise and its doing the same exact thing.

I had a few questions for you simplyscion. What did you use to control the ecu? and did you have the low throttle hesitation that I am experiencing? Thank you in advance.

 

I used the Camcon wich was complete junk IMO. The ECU would overide the Camcon within miles and I was constantly left resetting my EFI fuses every day. I didnt experience partial throttle breakup, but more of WOT issues...my MAF was maxing out and causeing everything to go out of wack. I wish I still had the car sometimes cause theres so many things I wanted to try that I didnt get a chance to.