I thnk that is what the ECU is doing to the Emanage. It would be ok at first but the ECU would over ride whatever was trying to "trick" it. We dynoed a Lotus Elise with headers at 196whp. After a while, the ECU caught on and the dyno run produced 169whp. These ECUs are tricky. I was wondering if the ECU would notice the injector size difference also?

 

Hello...McFly...

Now that I have your attention I'm hoping that someone reading this thread knows anything about turbos and can explain it to me.

I know there's different stages...0, 1, 2...to what...who knows? Can someone explain what this rating means? And what is available for an xB?

And I know that there's different manufacturers as evidenced in this thread alone.
Any info on what manufacturers there are and the pros/cons of one over the other?

And approx how much should a turbo kit for my xB cost? I see a wide variety of numbers.

Sorry for just throwing it up here when I know that 'search' is my friend and the information is proably already sitting somewhere around here. I'm just looking for the short & sweet answer. Thanks!!!

 

Well CoreyAnn... Im not sure you will get short and sweet answers.. But I will try and make them that..

There are not really to many xB kits that come in stages.. The ZPI tC kits come in stages... Stage 0- just turbo and piping, it does not come with front mount intercooler, bigger injectors or engine managment... Stage 1- comes with everything turbo, piping, FMIC, bigger injectors and engine managment... there is also a 1.5 kit that comes with a bigger turbo..

Now I guess the Greedy turbo kits for the xB could be classified in stages..cause they offer 2 different sections like the tC kits mentioned above. The ZPI xB turbo kit comes with everything you need, they dont have stages yet.

TSI also makes a turbo kit for the xB and a few other companies.. But Greddy and ZPI will be the 2 biggest companies with most kits in the feild.

You will get a million answers on which one to buy and how much you will spend.. I think it depends on what you want out of it.
ZPI- more WHP, more sleeperish, full kit, more money, and less heat in the engine bay (due to where the turbo is placed)
Greddy- less WHP, more bling under the hood, does come in stages and has way more heat under the hood because of turbo placement.

Im sure I missed somthing..let me know if I did or if you have any more questions.. Were always here to help.

 

hey bro i wanted to ask you a question, if i put a bad ___ borla exhaust system, an RD Injen CAI and a Supercharger or turbocharger in my car, what would be the total HP after modifying it. and what do you think would be better for this car, a turbocharger or a supercharger?

 

Intake, exhaust and supercharger would net you proably about 120-130 whp.. so 30-40ish whp over stock, which will make an xB a heck of alot more fun to drive.. In all honesty a turbo is gonna net you the most whp for your car, no if, and's or but's about it.

 

Okay so I'll be honest I didn't quite read all of the posts here but I read most, and I make no promises that what I'm asking hasn't already been answered. I'm the happy owner of a 2004 Scion Xa and I want to supercharge it. Least I think I do, I'm not sure which is better supercharging it or turbo charging it. I love my Xa to death but for a... well a speed hungry person as myself it's just not quite there. And I'd like the rundown on the Blitz Supercharger Kit for the Auto Scion Xa. And if you'd like to suggest a better kit please feel free ;) As a note I was curious if you can run a NOS System with a supercharger?

 

You should check this thread:

https://www.scionlife.com/forums/vie...412&highlight=

Hopefully that willwork. Theres alot of crabbin and whinin and cryin on that thread, but I have personally seen blown_xa's car run, and it is quite awesome. When I saw it, it had a blitz supercharger and a zex 50 shot. He was running very consistent low 14's in the quarter with that. Also, he told me that he was still getting about 300 miles to the tank of gas, but had not put it through emissions yet. A very sweet ride indeed.

I think if I boost my xa, Ill probably go the turbo route. ProshopXB above has a turbo'ed xb and I hear its quite fast, but Im not sure of his dyno numbers. Proshop, what numbers you getting and hows it running?

 

Well unfortuantely my kit is off my car and for sale, due to some Finacial downfalls I had fall on me.. But when it was on the car it ran perfect and was super fast for an Auto. I never got a dyno done, but I have driven plenty of cars that are 140 whp or more and it was just as fast as these cars if not faster.. Fusionscion (Peter) has taken over the roll as being the ZPI turbo Poster child.. He has a 5-speed and is only running 6psi right now.. but will be getting a retune and be running over 8psi when he gets his dyno done.. This will truly tell what these kits are capable.. Which should be damn fast..

 

I recently just purchased an xb, so i'm pretty much a n00b to the scion world.
but after having the xb for only a week or so, I'm already interested in SC it.
But I was curious, isn't it difficult to have a SC on a vehicle with 10.5:1 compression ? I know the optimal ratio to supercharge is lower, such as 8:1, 9:1, etc.
this may sound like a pretty stupid question buttt, just curious.

 

You would proably run better and get more whp if you went with lower compression pistons.. But from what I have seen the SC is not effected by the higher compression pistons. So worst case you can put the SCer on and get lower compression pistons later if money is a factor.

 

Okay, so I'm thinking about getting a Greddy SC for my xB. Does anyone have any experience with this setup on a daily driver? Is it reliable? And I hate to bring it up again, but is it really worth it and noticable?

 

You might try PMing 808Customs or Rocket.. they both have had there SCer's on for about a year and would be best to tell you about it's reliability and noticable gains... A turbo setup will net you way more power, but might be more work then you want to put up with on a daily, weekly or monthly basis.

 

This might be a dumb question, but are there any oil lines or fuel lines that need to be tapped or rerouted with the installation of a Greddy SC? Can you keep your A/C with the Greddy unit?

 

To my knowledge there are no extra fuel or oil lines needed for the Greddy... the Power Enterprise's SCer requires an oil line.. but it depend on the type of blower.. Becuse of the type of blower the greddy is, oil line is not required... You can keep your A/C with the unit, but you will need to zip tie the large A/C line next to belts to the metal on the passenger side. This will ensure enough room for the SCer and its belt to move freely and not hit the line.

 

IM NOT THINKING ABOUT I AM GOING TO TURBOCHARGE MY BOX BUT I CAN ONLY FIND TWO KITS THAT WORK WITH THE BOX, GREDDY AND ZPI, DOES ANYONE KNOW OF ANYOTHERS OUT THERE? HOPEFULLY ONE WITH ITS OWN SEPERATE OIL RESEVIOR AS WELL BUT EITHER WAYS GOOD, IF NOT ILL TAKE SUPERCHARGERS SUGGESSTIONS AS WELL THANKS

 

Okay so for the longest time I was on the fence about going F/I of some kind and I'm a little torn at the moment. I've seen the Power Enterprise kit for the bB (I have a 2004 xA) as well as the Blitz kit and looked at a few of the turbo kits (Mostly the one at Turbo Toyotas) and the question I have is the 3k price tag really worth the gains? Don't just give me a 'yes or no' answer that doesn't help any I'm interested in reasons. The other purpose of this post is that I do have a 2004 Scion xA (auto) and I'm curious what the generally agreed "best" F/I kit is. Whether it be Super Charging or Turboed I want your opinion.

 

shishno !!! hows vitorville? c my fams moving back to cali after living 6 yrs in fla n leavin me behind, im at fiu and cant transfer yet so i was wonderin hows victorville since coicendently my fams moving there

 

anyone with experance with the power enterprise s c ....i have a 06..xb......this looks like the best route for me.....not sure

 

i've bought a turbo with ex. 38mm w/g. Any suggestions on where to put the turbo,under the car like zpi or behind the engine? If i put it behind the engine then i might wanna make a custom manifold. Help me o f/i gurus.

 

I don't have any first hand experience with the zpi kit, but it just doesn't seem safe to me to have it that low to the ground, I would say go where mine is, utilize he exh. manifold, maintenance should be easier for ya in the long run, plus it adds a touch of class to your engine bay lol.