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Old Oct 25, 2005 | 05:59 AM
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engine swap not worth it IMO

because your engine is still in good condition. why not use it?

use wat you have right? tats wat i think.

engien swap maybe for a big project or if ur engine now is broken or something
Old Oct 25, 2005 | 09:13 AM
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the 1nz is crap imo.
Old Oct 25, 2005 | 10:10 AM
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Whay Swap? You can keep your stock motor in case something happens.

Back to the 2zz swap. There are more aftermarket support for that motor. A lot of Toyotas motors and transmissions are very similar. Kinda like how you can do a lot of swaps into the Nissan 240sx. They do make a motor mount kit. It doesn't mean itas an easy swap. There are still wiring harnesses, exhaust manifolds, hose placement, etc.
Old Oct 25, 2005 | 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by hotbox05
the 1nz is crap imo.
ya so isnt that why a company turbo charged a prius to make 300 hp?


i believe the 1nz in the prius has a compression ratio of 13.4:1

mayb you wanna swap bottoms?

ya true there isnt a lot of support for teh 1nz but... if you want to go fast... custom work is avalible. either way... i say its gonna cost you and arm and a leg.
Old Oct 25, 2005 | 06:50 PM
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I would think that swapping an engine would cost a lot more money than buying a turbo.... but what do i know
Old Oct 25, 2005 | 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by ScionxBforlife108
I would think that swapping an engine would cost a lot more money than buying a turbo.... but what do i know
i was thinking the same....dunno what the break down would be as far as cost though.
Old Oct 25, 2005 | 10:09 PM
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That's the catch right there. Who knows what kind of things you'll run into that will have to be custom fabricated or something. Also, when you start messing with the wiring and ECUs and such how likely is it that you're going to lose things like VSC, ABS, maybe airbags, etc. Where do those systems get their info? Are you going to be able to keep it all intact and receiving the proper info it needs?
Old Oct 25, 2005 | 10:10 PM
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but a swapped motor that can handle boost , or makes power is alot better of an idea to me. than turboing a motor that can't handle it. that and a motor swap CAN be legal. whereas as every single turbo or supercharger kit is NOT legal. and will probably NEVER be.
Old Oct 26, 2005 | 04:17 AM
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Allrighty then. I think in about 3-5 years we'll start seeing some motor swaps and parts, that's waht happened with the civic, and crx.
Old Oct 27, 2005 | 03:40 AM
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So far the Starlet swap has proven to be the best bang so far. With just a couple of goodies were at 179 whp and 192 wtq. Thats all the stock injectors would allow. Bigger injectors and we off to the dyno again.
Old Oct 27, 2005 | 03:42 AM
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That's awesome! Can't wait till it's the easy thing to do. But right now I geuss it's just plain smart to hold off if you're like me, broke. Still I can't help but fantasize.....
Old Oct 27, 2005 | 03:58 AM
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Once we figure out the total cost of the swap, we will post it. Just to give you an idea, we do this swap in Tercels for $2800.00 out the door. Scion will be slightly higher, but not that much.
Old Oct 27, 2005 | 04:03 AM
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And one would gain at least 70 HP for abot the same price as a turbo kit. And the best deal is you guys install the motor, as opposed to the owner installing the turbo, or paying another 3-5 hundered to have it installed. I think the benefits are very clear.
Old Oct 27, 2005 | 07:07 PM
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Do you guys rework/rebuild the motor or is it just a used unit from a junkyard?
Old Oct 27, 2005 | 07:18 PM
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is the Starlet swap street legal though?
Old Oct 27, 2005 | 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by ELPrototypes
Once we figure out the total cost of the swap, we will post it. Just to give you an idea, we do this swap in Tercels for $2800.00 out the door. Scion will be slightly higher, but not that much.
is that just the labor? or both labor and parts?
Old Oct 27, 2005 | 09:15 PM
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too bad it'd never be smog legal..


do you retain vsc , trac , and abs?
Old Oct 27, 2005 | 09:29 PM
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The great and wonderful Yoda once said.....

" No box no go fast. Box is Box."
" Wanna go fast. Buy used GTI VW. MMmmm me thinks blow what you talk about away I do."

Translation. Don't dump big bucks into a small motor when you want a big motor car. It is too much. It is always to much.

$14,500 box plus an easy 3grand for motor swap = $17,500 fun box

$17,500 =2003/2004 VW GTI 1.8T at around a 180hp and weighs almost nothing.

Heck find anything else. Mustang GT/older EVO/ etc.
Old Oct 27, 2005 | 09:36 PM
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actually a gti weighs ALOT do research. weighs like 3200 or more pounds.

and i like the reliability and build quality of my box. i didnt buy it expecting it to be fast. but i will make it fast.
keep naysaying.

if YOU want an rsx type of car buy one. it's a much better car than a tc. and that's honest.
Old Oct 30, 2005 | 04:50 PM
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In California, what engines would be a smog-legal swap for an xB?



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